Mari Churin Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) AC Name: HOURAIAC Game: Armored Core: Last Raven -------------------------------------------------- Frame:Head | Core | Arms | LegsS2 | U4 | MACQUE | COUGAR20/10/0/0/0 | 2/0/0/8/0 | 0/10/0/0/0 | 0/10/0/0/0 Internals:Booster | FCS | Generator | RadiatorGULL | F73H | LOTUS | ANANDA0/0/2/8 | N/A | 0/10/0 | 0/0/10 Armaments:Inside | Extension | R Back | L BackN/A | RM3 | 69m | RA R Arm | L Arm | R Hanger | L HangerROC | HP | WRAITH | WRAITH Optional Parts:AMINO | ES | 79L+ | GOLGI | CODON | HISTON| RIBOSE| MARISHI -------------------------------------------------- Notes: Cooling 15621Stability: 6803Max Boost Speed: 457I wanted a ROC4 build because ROC 4 is cool.Ripped from PD's post.The tunes are pretty random. I had no idea I was doing with it, and got lazy.As noob pilot, I don't know how to pilot this thing.Dracy made me post this. Edited August 31, 2014 by Mari Churin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 You almost always wanna tune heads all defense, because heads usually get +2 defense per tune point, while very minimal returns on weight and cooling. Other frame parts can get you +3, +4 and on rare occasions +5 on certain defense, but usually after a couple tunes to defense any other frame part will grant you only +2, but at the same time will give you larger weight and/or cooling returns than a head will give you. Cores and Legs will give you the biggest returns to weight. I usually like to tune stuff for weight if they give me 10+ units of weight reduction in return for one tuning point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 the bot looks almost exactly like my roc4 bot, i cant look up my tunes sorry but I can say the bot itself is good I think I use s4 head and the midweight shell defense arms instead but I don't see any problems with what you're using, ur prolly a lil lighter and faster but a lil less armor and AP, fine either way i cant give too many recommendations on tunes tbh its one of those things you have to feel out based on how you play, just try to figure out what you prioritize and stuff, like me, I tend to try and hit nearest 50s for defense (ex. if i were at 1585 I would try to get to 1600) and after that I tune for cooling and weight. I'm not too big on armor tunes generally and I think I favor cooling the most because I move a lot. the bot is strong tho that much im sure of, just remember to keep movinng in on people and stay close, and also try to utilize the ground boosting when you go in to attack cuz closing distance is key with roc4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mari Churin Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thank you very much for the helpful info, TM! M(_ _)MI'll make sure to adjust my tunes. Also, yeah, I ripped off your ROC4 build from your post on one of Dracy's threads. Fascination bot IIRC. So yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 oh ok i thought u meant u ripped off format didnt know u ripped off the whole bot lol fk it ur learning the game still anyhow it sounds like might as well do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Werd, we love learning here. Armored Core University 2 stronk. Edited August 31, 2014 by Top Notch Cock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 how about ....S2 | U2 | GIBBON2 | 80S2 (or u wanna tried for 73SSA) for frame? and ROC2 for pulse gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 definitely not s2 are one of the worst legs in the game and roc2 works completely different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Drac Wraith Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 how about ....S2 | U2 | GIBBON2 | 80S2 (or u wanna tried for 73SSA) for frame? and ROC2 for pulse gun?That is like... a way inferior bot. Almost every part you listed is a downgrade from what Mari already as. HOURAI is a pretty strong bot. Fully loaded, this is a 450+ kph 8.5k AP with I want to say 1800/1700 defenses or somewhere close to that (defenses are pretty good either way). With it's AP and defenses, this is 1 of the tougher bots to crack. An issue I'm seeing with the ROC4 is that you sometimes fire it outside of it's effective range. This isn't a rare occurrence either. Every match we play it seems I see this happen multiple times. This might be me backpedaling because I don't want to brawl with ROC4/handgun, but you need to work on range control. Also, just a general tip: pay attention to the lock on reticule, it'll tell you which weapons are locked on. If you only see a range number on the left side, then your right weapon isn't locked on and vice versa. This bot needs to be played aggressively. Not hyper-aggressive, but aggressive. ROC4/handgun is a powerful CQC combo and your defenses help you to take hits better than other ACs. Basically, I see your AC as a potent brawler with missiles for longer range and hopefully a great punish with 69M/RM3 salvos. Don't be afraid to get close to enemies with this AC. ROC4/handgun is something I usually try to avoid brawling against since I may end up tanking more hits than I want to. In 1 of our matches last night with Panzerfaust, I think I had at least 4k AP and before I knew it, I was at like 1.6k IIRC. I won the match, but I was surprised how much damage I took. With Arctic Storm, I can't brawl against you. With my paper thin defense, I can't tank hits. Now, this AC is a MWB on COUGAR2 and packing some armor with it. Because of this, your handling isn't the best, so I don't suggest trying to get super crazy close. Getting super close is better for ACs with better handling. I found that with Arctic Storm, my best strategy is to get within 50m or so and use my handling to bulldog your lockbox and prevent you from getting hits while I hammer away with PIXIE3/69H. I saved the match where I successfully did this to you and won. Most of the others matches though, you did a good job of keeping enough range between us so that you were able to inflict more damage than I could to you. I need to work on my aggression and make it more coordinated than it currently is. Also: Panzerfaust's grenade launcher says hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) damn rite...but that's also too damn boring to me TBH. edit : ye, I like all of old gen (AC1-LR) cuz there are still having some parts that maybe wouldn't good or great as competitive choices but it works on some situations, sometimes, and maybe useful for someone...and things become to be a kind of fkng-bored stuffs since ACV-VD. and yes, I'd totally agree for most of competitive parts list of LR stuff, but still, I don't wanna see things too much same or similar from different person, and like I said...."too boring". edit 2 : even if I said I'm agreed for totally competitiveness parts but I didn't care about it that much. Edited August 31, 2014 by Taurus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 ROC2 definitely isn't an inferior part, but it does work way differently. It's way more accurate than ROC4 but it's not as damaging up close. Treat ROC4 like a shotgun and ROC2 an energy HP. Gibbon2 is a pretty neat arm too and can be better than macaque for some very specific cases, but with this bot, you're already fast enough, so macaque is a great choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 roc2 is like a low ammo shade but if shade had worse stats its good not great either way completely diff from roc4 owen's analogy semi-works, roc2 def isnt the hp tho its maybe a diff handgun lol energy 69h or some shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 When's ROC5 coming out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Energy ghost is probably best example. Ghost is like a mini rifle so I guess likening roc2 to a mini shade works. Either way you can play further out with it. Edited September 1, 2014 by Top Notch Penis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 roc5 out in winter next year same time as bloodborne cuz its in bloodborne :plane: :plane: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Drac Wraith Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 ROC5 already exists, we just haven't been able to use it.http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110204230611/armoredcore/images/3/36/Wp2_low.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 That gun was fucking bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 @Drac : that's WG-XP2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 the version 9ball uses isnt that it just looks like that his is godly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 ye, it looks like some kind of 93RL or mini-K more than a fag pulse gun :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 9-ball's version was OP, in 2/AA form especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 not op enough he's been killed by a ton of terrible players repeatedly over history lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 they arent terrible they are top notch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 yeah huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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