Geist X Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I've beaten a lot of bosses in my time. From NES monsters like Dark Queen from Battletoads, to more recent horrors like Night Terror from Soul Calibur III, Alma from Ninja Gaiden, and even that annoying Final Boss from Senkou No Ronde. But compared to Nineball Seraph, they're a joke. Generally speaking, most bosses compared to AC2:AA Seraph are a joke. Even the original Seraph in ACMoA was no where near as powerful. Maybe offensively, but not with the ridiculous defense. Seraph is not easy to beat. Unless you can consistently beat Seraph on Hard Mode with a non PLOW AC, you cannot consider Seraph "Easy". So let's hear how you beat Nineball Seraph. The Weapons you used, the AC design you used, your tactics, normal or hard mode, was it a plus AC, overweight AC? Even if it was pure luck share how you managed to beat the most vicious Boss in AC History. First time I beat Seraph was on Hard Mode with an Overweight Humanoid AC(fast legs, heavily armored upper body), using the Karasawa. Before I won, I lost 42 straight times with a normal AC. Most of the damage was coming from those missiles before he picked me off with Moonlight. Hurt my pride quite a bit. AI was nothing like MoA. In frustration, I made an overweight, equipped the Karasawa, and just like that I won. Not be able to enjoy my victory, I went back to the older missions and practiced. I believe it's called the "eliminate intruders" mission, where the Indies pay you to stop the MTs and two ACs show up. I consider killing those two, one of the hardest missions in the game, more so than the triple threat mission. After beating that mission several times to improve my evasion, I went back to the Lost Field using a normal Quad equipped with x2 Large Rockets. My strategy consisted of overboosting whenever he fired missiles, and trying to circle him and nail him with Large Rockets. It takes a while, but it does work. The same strategy can work using the light grenade launchers(since not everyone is into Rockets). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendragon Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'll admit, the first time I beat him i had to use a full HUMAN+ AC. And even then, it took me the latter half of a YEAR to do it. That's right, 6 months straight constantly starting up the Ps2, going into that damned arena, and losing to this mechanical scumbag over and over. Mind you, this was only my 2nd entry into the series, so I really had no idea how to utilize my AC. I believe it was a hover AC that used orbits and a grenade launcher. It was so hard actually hitting him, but I believe I eventually did it when I scored a lucky blade shot, from a mid powered blade I also equipped incase I ran out of ammo. I attempted it again a few years later, this time using my current AC philosophy, which was to have a balance of weapons on a midweight biped (machine gun, blade, missiles, cannon, FINAL DESTINATION) and this time I didn't use any human+ whatsoever. The machine gun rounds were used whenever I was trying to dodge his attacks, the cannon was for whenever I could get a lucky shot from behind him, then use my overboost to dodge immediately before he bladed me to death. Without human+ I had to kneel to use it, but in all honestly, it made using the cannon more worth it. You should've seen the times I just BARELY got out of kneeling mode to escape him going MOONLIGHT-Happy on me. Anyway, the missiles were there to do decent damage when he went into his aerial mode, since he displayed a moment of weakness mid-transformation. Finally, the blade was there incase I ran out of ammo and had to spar with him in melee combat. I knew that was suicide, so that's why I planned on combining this with a well timed limiter release so I could at least match him in endurance and speed. Oddly enough, this time around I beat him in less than 3 tries, after scoring a lucky blade hit, he took too long turning around and I fired a good salvo of missiles to throw at him, sending him down in flames. Looking back, I guess the Human+ was nothing more than a crutch that held me back. Pretty ironic, but all in all it felt like such a relief that I could beat him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkluke1992 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 The only time I beat Seraph so far, I had been playing for a good 6 hours. I lost like some 20 times, until i got lucky with the 1000 round machine gun, 60% ammo pack, multi-missile interceptors, and the moonlight. I kept blasting at him when ever he charged, and barely made it out alive. I tried again 30 minutes later, and got destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogan Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 First time I did it was with PLUS. Cuz thats how I roll. More recently all I did was equip grenade arms and back pedal. (hard mode no PLUS.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 First time I beat him was with a laser rifle (xc01 I think was the name), a moonlight, and ground torpedos+relation missiles. No plow. I curbstomped him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I am undefeated vs Nineball Seraph-- never once lost vs him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Missile arms work pretty good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talentless Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Retro topic; dig it, man. After an infinte amount of failures, I succeeded with my two large rockets on a hover AC.Later on I was able to do it on Hard with large rocket + plasma rifle w/o plow. Much later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendragon Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Funny enough, when I saw this topic a while ago, I decided to play through the entire series again to get a feel for the older ACs. Now I'm about to face Nineball Seraph with my standard machine gun/blade/missiles with extension/laser blade setup on a midweight biped. No human plus. Let's hope I beat him. Will report back with results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomrah Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm with Raor, I just slapped some missile arms with relation missiles onto a lightweight frame and OB'd around his place of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettiel Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hmm...Used a Blade, Grenades and karasawa. First time around No plus. Hard mode also no plus. For shits and giggles i used only a blade against him and defeated him. Overboost is your good friend. I also never lost to Nine-Ball Seraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I don't fucking remember, it wasn't like a life event or anything, and it was a long time ago. I was like 11 and thought Lord Secret II was a cool name, so I probably did something retarded like a heavy RJ with MG arms. If it's the AC I'm thinking of, though, it had multimissiles. That has to count for something. Alternatively, heavy RJ with SAWA. And multimissiles. My AA designs tended to follow a theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 K-Saw in 2/AA was so OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettiel Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 K-Saw in 2/AA was so OP. Hence why most would believe its a broken part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Fo'sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettiel Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 MOONLIGHT was also considered Broken due to its almost using no energy to use. The weight however i guess made up for it but meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 In which game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettiel Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Back in AC1 through MOA but thats counting in H+. Even without it though it was practically great for not using any energy at all. In AC2/AA ehh i wouldnt say broken cuz they nerfed on the blade wave attack damage but energy effiecent when using the blade in combat is a different story. Sure it was heavy and drainy but in combat the thing to me didnt really used that much energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aokiryu89 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 1st Gen Moonlight, Never leave home without it.--- I cannot beat Nineball with OW plus. I had to remove both my Multi-Missile and the Moonlight. So it was pretty much Karasawa MK II and the standard GL. I can't help it that GL really saves my nads. I lost several times with my AC fully loaded, then a couple more times after removing the missile, then 5 or less times when I finally decided to remove the moonlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettiel Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 If you get him into that little hole part in AC1 you can use MOONLIGHT and jump slash him twice which will instantly kill him. Never....and i mean NEVER use missiles on him unless it is the large missile but thats just pushing it. MOA though abuse the large missile launcher on both Nine-Ball and Nine-Ball Seraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffon Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Oh man, it's been forever. I don't remember what I used when I beat it for the first time, but after that I found that an armored MW with the SAWA could pretty consistently do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 In MoA PPwK > Sawa, 100 > 50 ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffon Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I'm sure you're right, I never got to play much of MoA. I was talking more about the AA encounter with 9B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrettiel Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 PPwK was dope in MOA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aokiryu89 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 If you get him into that little hole part in AC1 you can use MOONLIGHT and jump slash him twice which will instantly kill him. Never....and i mean NEVER use missiles on him unless it is the large missile but thats just pushing it. MOA though abuse the large missile launcher on both Nine-Ball and Nine-Ball Seraph. Ah I was referring to Nineball Seraph when I had to drop everything. First game I had no issues with except for being too timid for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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