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#21 Nomrah

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:07 PM

I've been patiently waiting for this shit to die off, since all gimmicks and fads come to an end sooner or later. I feel it has reached its peak already, it has nowhere to go but down at this point. I remember this new breed of hip-hop really starting up with that damn soldier boy song and little wayne, a bunch of electronic/hip-hop with inappropriate lyrical content. This was different than rap, targeted towards everyday middle-school adolescents of various ethnic backgrounds instead of just blacks. Now I literally have heard songs on the radio where a girl is singing in a sort of "baby" voice about sleeping with strangers. I'm left to wonder what's next to come?

Check this filthy shit out. Cashing in on the Gaga fans for sure.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 05:45 PM

We have but downward to go.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 06:07 PM

View PostNomrah, on 02 December 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

I've been patiently waiting for this shit to die off, since all gimmicks and fads come to an end sooner or later. I feel it has reached its peak already, it has nowhere to go but down at this point. I remember this new breed of hip-hop really starting up with that damn soldier boy song and little wayne, a bunch of electronic/hip-hop with inappropriate lyrical content. This was different than rap, targeted towards everyday middle-school adolescents of various ethnic backgrounds instead of just blacks. Now I literally have heard songs on the radio where a girl is singing in a sort of "baby" voice about sleeping with strangers. I'm left to wonder what's next to come?

Check this filthy shit out. Cashing in on the Gaga fans for sure.


So true. That stuff is trash.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 06:14 PM

Hip-Hop Hipsters

For once, I'd approve of some drive-by beefing.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 06:19 PM

Beefing...is that when you hit someone in the nuts? I have the feeling I've asked you this before?

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 08:01 PM

Them shooting one another, is what I am getting at.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 04:09 AM

I prefer Old School stuff, and songs that actually talk about things beyond glorifying the ghetto and all that crap. I'm not much of a fan for the stuff that was considered ground breaking for simply being inappropriate but I do love a lot of the humor in them.

I mean really, who would do a song about butts and expect to be taken seriously?

One major thing I enjoy about hip hop are the artists who make samples In House then create a mix beat that is more than the electronic version of a riff.

I enjoy a lot of softer songs in general though that have more content in the complexity of the song itself rather than oversaturating with loud instruments and roughly delivered lyrics. (Not that I don't enjoy those things it's just that I don't feel like listening to heavy stuff all the time.)

The Hip Hop culture does have an intelligent side that does not get a lot of publicity. Sure you might find an article but it certainly isn't going to have it's own TV Special in the States.

I wish their could be more black groups who actually play real instruments though. It's disturbing how many of my so-called people flock to these OPPORTUNISTS and that's what I think of the popular scene all these new guys are opportunists taking advantage of a people who have a long history of destroying themselves.

I've heard my fair share of stories about relatives/cousins/friends/ and acquaintances who decided to try and become rappers by selling their lyrics to these guys in hopes that they'll be the next new face. It's a pretty disgusting system in my opinion and I hope it dies with the current scene.

The hip hop genre in general is capable of a very high level of versatility. You can do whatever the heck you want with it.

Gorillaz is a good example though I don't know how anyone hear feels about them. The musical artist is pretty damn talented and they both even got commissioned to do the newest version of Journey To The West in China. This was a couple years ago so I really don't know what those two guys are doing now.


A DJ from Japan who is now dead was quite impressive as well. NUJABES real name Jun Seba, he worked with rapper who goes by Shing02 who has lyrics more reminiscent to real poetry rather than the glorification crap.

Their are actually quite a few artists who don't get a lot of publicity because they aren't surrounded by drama or funded by a major record label, but none the less, they are beyond simply good. The ones who actually play the physical instrument, record it's sound and use a keyboard or whatever synthesizing device and transfer it to create a mixed track. Then they go ahead and play the real instruments live, that really says something about down to Earth people who aren't simply milking the genre dry of 50 year old topics.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 09:29 AM

Oh the "artists" who sample other people's music and then get in on going after online music "piracy" are total fucking hypocrites.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 11:35 AM

View PostEnganacious, on 03 December 2011 - 09:29 AM, said:

Oh the "artists" who sample other people's music and then get in on going after online music "piracy" are total fucking hypocrites.

Like this dumb fucker.


At 0:52 and on for those who haven't already heard, copies Schala's theme from Chrono Trigger for his filthy song.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 11:42 AM

You have to request permission for samples, and usually pay as well. That's why they're always listed in the liner notes. This even applies to movie soundbites.

I'm not a fan of your boy Wiz there but I do like me some chrono trigger.

I also don't have a problem from someone sampling from a video game.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:05 PM

I want some sampling from dark souls. More rap songs need haaaaaaa in them.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:09 PM

Imagine if Solaire spoke in raps lol

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:11 PM

Why can't good ol' Wiz take his love and passion from this classic tune and use the inspiration to craft something completely new? Is he lazy, or simply incapable? It doesn't take long at all to write a rap, how about use the rest of that free time and delve into the wonderful world of musical composition.
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:18 PM

Hip-Hop and Rap is usually devoid of actual musicians, just fancy singing and spoken word ontop of auto-tuned/DJ mixed tracks.

One thing you get to see at a Slayer show is people actually playing MUSIC, what a novel idea.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:32 PM

View PostEnganacious, on 03 December 2011 - 09:29 AM, said:

Oh the "artists" who sample other people's music and then get in on going after online music "piracy" are total fucking hypocrites.


And do it horribly at that, yeah it's pretty freaking sad. The look on some guys faces when I tell them how much their reasons for liking the (DON'T FORGET YOUR NIGGAS IN THE HOOD crappy trash junk shit piss) are complete bull crap. Haha apparently it was enough for them to officially consider me NOT BLACK.

That's how my so called people exile you, I'm simply not one of the Niggaz or Swag enough and all that horse crap. Like I ever wanted to be in that bucket of crabs in the first place.

(It's a saying about the black people, we are like a bucket of crabs, whenever one of us tries to climb out, the other will grab on to it in effort of getting themselves out.)

I think the Boondocks sums up my opinion on mainstream hip hop culture quite well (on that note a lot of the underground stuff is just disgusting as well.)

Ah anyways more closely to what you said about piracy. A lot of these guys actually have stolen lyrics and tracks from kids who look up to them. It's an absolute storm of shit.

Also why I don't make friends with just anyone.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:35 PM

idk I've been to a lot of shows with bands. Jay-Z pretty much always tours with a band now.

Slayer fucking rules! Although the craziest pit I've ever been in still belongs to Rage at an impromtu anti-AZ immigration law show they did

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 12:39 PM

Jay-Z uses a live band at his shows. He does on a lot of songs too.

EDIT: Mike got in before me!

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 01:24 PM

View PostEnganacious, on 03 December 2011 - 12:18 PM, said:

Hip-Hop and Rap is usually devoid of actual musicians

Are you two implying that what Jay-Z does with a live band is the norm?

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:11 PM

It's not the norm, but it's not actually outlandish anymore. People like Jay-Z and The Roots in particular have popularized live bands being used by hiphop acts. You work with what you have.

Here are some people I've seen use live bands recently (last 3 years):

Jay-Z's (been using live bands for years, sometimes huge ones)
Drake
The Roots (are their own band)
Mos Def
Wu Tang
Lupe Fiasco
Kanye West
Nas (he actually did a big tour with Damian Marley's band, and made a full album with them)
Public Enemy
Snoop Dogg
Lauryn Hill
Ludacris

That's off the top of my head. That's also ignoring beatboxing. Just with that list I'm sure you'll notice a recurring theme, which is to say, they are talented artists, as opposed to trash like, say, a Soulja Boy (the most common example of what's wrong with mainstream hiphop) or . For a long time they didn't use bands not from a lack of talent but because that wasn't the way things were done for hiphop. Those barriers aren't there anymore, especially for live shows.

Of course we have the losers still trying to make a quick buck off of other people's hard work and talent, but every genre of music has that. It's not unique to anyone. One could argue that's not unique to anything we do as human beings.

You're right though, Jay-Z isn't the norm in any respect. When I was in Peru a few months ago, the people I heard being played out of everyone's cars and in the stores and buildings was (in no order) Nirvana, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, and Jay-Z. As he said, "I'm not a businessman, I'm a business, man!"

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 02:24 PM

Kanye West needs to start mastering his albums better. It's getting on my nerves. Such great songs, but they're being held back because they're getting more and more brickwalled with each new album. I wouldn't mind remasters somewhere down the line if they ever come out.





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