The Firearm Thread

[Nomrah]

In an ideal world I'd have my hands on one of these.

 

VSS Vintorez

Soviet silenced rifle used among Spetsnaz. Uses a heavy 9x39 caliber bullet with exceptional penetrative capabilities.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Nomrah/Guns/vssvintorez.jpg

[Shirtless Crackhead]

Know anywhere you can get 9x39mm ammo?

 

How good is a gun if you can't have the ammo.

 

Just buy a Saiga in .308, get it converted, have Jim Fuller tool it up for suppressor work and get a tax stamp for like an AAC suppressor and buy sub-sonic ammo.

 

It'll be cheaper than that, and work every bit as good.

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

I'm a huge fan of 1911s now. My buddy got a 1911 chambered in 45 acp a few months ago, and boy oh boy is it sweet. It's a Rock Island Armory one. That gun is the most enjoyable handgun I've ever fired. He bought a compensator for it too, pretty sweet gig.

 

That's all I can contribute, really. Oh, John and I have been talking about buying Ruger No. 1s for Zombie Apoc times when we can act like Mad Max doods mercing people all over .45-70 govt style.

 

EDIT: I've never seen 9x39 mm!

Edited February 21, 2011 by Penguin Deus

[Shirtless Crackhead]

1911's are for expert shooters with a good basic knowledge of how to gunsmith, aka your typical American shooter circa 1911. Good ones are either costly to buy, or take a good bit of time and effort to break-in and tune.

 

Glocks are cheaper, as accurate, every bit as reliable (they have fixed the Gen 1&2 issues with hot hand-loads make "Glocknades"), more accurate than 99.9% of shooters, and come in all the flavors of handgun calibers. The general bitches are they are ugly, have big grips, and don't have fancy options; all terrible short-falls for a gun (that's sarcasm).

 

If you really want a nice gun, but don't ever plan on calling the manufacturer for anything, get a USP; nice guns, just don't expect anything from H&K. Realize if something is a problem or does break, your $1000 USP has basically no warranty; and even if it is covered, you'll have to deal with desk clerks left from the Third Reich to get anywhere.

 

Most gun manufacturers nowadays have gone to crap because they make more money selling hyped up guns to idiot Americans and gear and shit for airsoft fags and tacticool nerds from COWOFDOODY and what have you.

 

If anybody on here is going to put money down on a gun, I'd highly advise you seek me out first.

 

If not, my PROTIP = There's plenty of great guns to be had, but it's a capitalistic market, and everyone is just out trying to make a buck out of you; realize that you'll probably do alot better than most.

 

~

 

EDIT: You can't buy 9x39 in the US, the Russians don't export it, same for 7N22 5.45x39mm; all the current Russian military cartridges for Kalashnikov pattern weapons, save for the 7.62x39's are all kept within Russian borders; plus most of these more exotic Russian guns are strictly created for military/paramilitary personnel on small-scale.

Edited February 21, 2011 by DangerWorldWide

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

Um, I'm not sure what you're trying to say? Are you saying not to buy the 1911 that he already bought? Or was that some random ruminations that stemmed from me mentioning 1911s?

 

Glocks are dope.

 

I'm not planning to buy anything aside from maybe a .22 rifle of some kind. Like a marlin or a Ruger. Just something to plink with for kicks.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

I'm just saying 1911's are more problematic than their fans would let you think, they are perfectly good handguns.

 

Ruger 10/22, most popular gun in America for one reason, it's good.

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

Would you recommend buying a 10/22 brand new, or should I look for a used one? Like I said earlier, it's on the shortlist for guns I'd be willing to purchase.

 

I wasn't noticing much difference in ordering direct from the manufacturer to buying them in gun stores in the area. Even at the gun shows I went to the markdowns were not particularly dramatic.

[Nomrah]

Just buy a Saiga in .308, get it converted, have Jim Fuller tool it up for suppressor work and get a tax stamp for like an AAC suppressor and buy sub-sonic ammo.

 

It'll be cheaper than that, and work every bit as good.

 

You are an inspiration and I will be considering this, I have got a couple questions though. First off what was that one site you mentioned to me earlier that deals in AK's and checks for canted sights (not krebs but another site)? Also what price range should I be looking at for a good Saiga in .308?

 

Also another interesting soviet weapon chambered in 9x39.

 

OTs-14 Groza

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Nomrah/Guns/groza.jpg

Edited February 22, 2011 by Nomrah

[Shirtless Crackhead]

Just get a new one, if you buy a used one, make sure you've seen it in your hands before you hand over money, it's easy to tell if there's something wrong with a 10/22.

 

~

 

Groza's a 7.62x39mm gun brah, watch the vid, it's a modified AK-47.

 

 

I don't recommend any of that, you can't buy a suppressor without an ATF stamp. For your first gun, worry about buying a good base rifle or handgun and working on marksmanship and primarily firearms safety.

 

EDIT: It's also not Soviet, it's Russian, the Soviet Union hasn't produced anything new in over 20 years because it THE SOVIET UNION COLLAPSED/DISOLVED THAT LONG AGO, MOFO'S NEED TO STOP SAYING SOVIET ANYTHING, THIS IS NOT THE 1980'S, AND THERE ARE NO WOLVERINES.

Edited February 22, 2011 by DangerWorldWide

[Nomrah]

Groza's a 7.62x39mm gun brah, watch the vid, it's a modified AK-47.

But also in 9x39. http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/ots-14-groza-e.html

 

And yes, Russian it is, I stand corrected.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

It's not a terribad or epic round either way, .308 subsonic + suppressor = same effect (because that's what the VSS and it's caliber based progeny are, suppressor+sub-sonic).

 

If you really wanted a VSS style gun, but one that performs WAY BETTER, get an AR15 get it in .300 Whisper and a suppressor; it'll cost you about 3 grand require a tax stamp and probably a couple of months, and the bullets ain't cheap or easy to find, but you'll have a very quiet semi-automatic rifle.

 

 

AR in 300 whisper/fireball w/ suppressor

 

 

 

Sub-sonic semi-automatic weapons in platforms not designed (or ones that possess a suppressed gas adjustment for subsonic ammo) will generally not cycle the weapon, like in later bit of that last video (that goes for AK's, AR's, etc..), it's all down to what ballistics you require and what platform best suits the job.

Edited February 22, 2011 by DangerWorldWide

[Shirtless Crackhead]

Here's a pretty cool AK, it's basically a Kreb's AK-100 w/ a 16" barrel, ultimak rail, aimpoint red dot, light, and sling.

 

http://i.imgur.com/ltDzq.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/xfGHL.png

 

Not mine, but I like the left-side shot, not alot of people realize it's a folding stock.

 

EDIT: To operate the stock, press button on the bottom (this unlocks it from the folded position), then just bump it into place or something, it will lock up rock solid and is as comfortable as the regular polymer stocks (it's probably the best folding stock made right now), to fold it, the left side has a button on the back side of the receiver, opposite the elongated D cut/plug on the right side, it's tough for little pussy fingers to do, but I can do it no problems, Russians make grunt weapons, not pristine range guns (not to say the AR15 isn't every bit it's equal).

 

EDIT EDIT: There really is only one higher tier of AK's, that's if you have like Jim Fuller or a custom guy to like muzzle work for various muzzle devices (balla status means you'd have a QD suppressor mount, Fuller will tune your gas to run like a

), various front sight and gas block modifications, moly resin and/or nickel boron finishes, trigger work, and probably get you a $30 Hogue Grip and some XS sights.

 

I haven't seen one of those guns yet (no pics, just vid).

 

EDIT EDIT EDIT: I added a video of the AMD-65 in the post w/ it's picture, on the bottom.

Edited February 26, 2011 by DangerWorldWide

[Shirtless Crackhead]

[Nomrah]

That is pretty cool, I'd want one right now but with a new name... I'd call it The Blunt Edited March 4, 2011 by Nomrah

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

We're thinking about changing the stock on my boy's mosin nagant, actually. He's goin for a synthetic one I think instead of the wooden one he's got now. It's got a reinforced butt and he doesn't like how it feels when he shoots because of that.

[SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD]

Tell him to put 3/4 inch spikes on the butt so it doesn't move around on his shoulder. Edited March 4, 2011 by Ninety

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

Sounds like a plan.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

Go buy an AK-47 rubber but pad, and it will fit over the Mosin, they cost like $10-15 and will take the bite out of the mosin.

 

Or just tell him to quit being a pussy and shoot until shoulder no longer feels the pain.

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

#2 is what I actually did awhile back. I literally called him a pussy and told him to learn to hold it properly.

 

It didn't hurt the second time he took it to the range.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

Went shooting with my buddy, took his tantal out to the range, didn't do too bad; but it's not perfect either.

 

We are going turkey hunting in April, so I will hopefully have pics/vids of that when it happens.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

http://i.imgur.com/mrFGN.jpg

Regular 30-rounder.

 

http://i.imgur.com/wVdSg.jpg

Dual 40-round mags, TACTICAL FLOSSING.

Edited April 3, 2011 by DangerWorldWide

[SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD]

Took my mother's Taurus Judge to the range today. Not a bad little gun but it's pretty big for only shooting a .45. Shooting .410 shells out of it is kind of neat but I'd really only use that to shoot snakes or something. I wouldn't use it as a personal defense round. Only a 5 round chamber too.

 

Here's my grouping at about 25 feet with .45 Long Colt. Those flyers were my first three tries at double-action. I definitely need to work on that. Single was ok, though. The head shots were double action. Everything could be tighter. Also, there are only 14 holes instead of 15 because I had a dud round, not because I missed.

 

This is what the .410 handgun shells look like at the same distance.

[Bakuhatsu Pengin]

youre a poop shot

 

squeeeeeeeeeeeeeze

[SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD]

Word. I don't get many opportunities to shoot though.

 

[Bakuhatsu Pengin]

do you use the middle part of your right index finger to shoot?