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#61 YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:27 PM

exactly bro hahahaha fuck the purists your genre is shitty you should be glad someone came along and made it good bitches

NIN > your favorite industrial band


this guy gives good reviews, and in this particular case he said some interesting stuff

I don't always agree with him but his logic is almost always strong

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:10 PM

Good stuff, a solid honest review. He touched on the dynamics which I can agree with and I touched on before. He was right on about the beats too, describing the sort of oldschool approach while also addressing the thick vibrant layer of synth blanketing the tracks. "Came back Haunted's" chorus with the heavy horn like droning is fucking great. I found the big thing is that this album has to be played loud (I feel you sort of touched on that in your review PD), otherwise its easy to disregard and miss out on a lot of what it does. All time Low is great, that verse(?) where the funk stops and enters that low thumping bassy section is amazing. Satellite has one of the coolest endings on the album, that whole song rules imo. The list goes on but that's enough for now haha.

Also read that TDS was big on his mind while working on this album, how he was looking back on himself and where he was at in his life and where he is now. Sort of helps my focus on the theory behind the album. --- http://www.spin.com/...n-marks-stream/

EDIT: Link to a good sized interview http://www.npr.org/2...as-20-years-ago

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:03 PM

View PostNomrah, on 13 September 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

I found the big thing is that this album has to be played loud (I feel you sort of touched on that in your review PD), otherwise its easy to disregard and miss out on a lot of what it does.

The implication I made I think is the same as what you're saying, but the words were different. What I said was that this album sounds terrible in my car (i.e. open air) but sounded way better on headphones. The reason for this is because the melodies and basslines are weak, and his lyrics suck, but the subtlties in arrangement and instrumentation, along with the atmosphere he creates (the one thing he pulled from TDS/Fragile that I liked, more on that later), mean you should try to hear it on quality headphones. My car has a great soundsystem, but yeah, this album fucking sucked out loud. Like it might be one of the worst albums I've heard in the last 2-3 years bad (like that fucking Bowie album).

Long story short I think it's best to play loud on headphones, but not out loud.

To put it into context, I'd argue Fragile is best on headphones, and TDS is best out loud, but either doesn't actually suck the other way around. The shredding and top sounds on Fragile, and the great (melodramatic) lyrics make for high energy and lots of screaming along, even if the true heart of the album lies in all the little things he does on each track. TDS was meant to make you feel like you needed to punt children into traffic, but if you want to listen to it on headphones there's all kinds of fun, nuanced, stuff going on. Careful listening doesn't net you as much but it's still there, and none of the songs lose any potency when you don't have space (physically).

View PostNomrah, on 13 September 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

Also read that TDS was big on his mind while working on this album

Yeah I mentioned this probably more than anything in my review. Mainly he used the same song structure that TDS employs, which I fucking hated. IMO he clearly can't duplicate or even approach TDS's sound anymore and so I really wish he would have just stayed away from that and did new stuff. His last album was great and sounded way more fresh than this.

I wanted Hesitation Marks, not a (way) shittier TDS.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:48 PM

I hear ya.

You know what I really miss most of all, Trent yelling, that snarling yell, he was such a loud dude on the past albums, I know this is obvious but its so true. Somewhere along the late 2000's I had given up on the old Trent comeback. He's gotten comfortable with his new thing so its all good though, Trent's made a lasting impact on each stage of his career and state of mind.

Sort of off-topic but this nin business has got me thinking about this once more. But It hits me whenever I'm writing or creating something personal. When you write something down when your in that place, it's priceless. It's sort of frustrating when you plan to create something while your in that pure state of mind, yet you wait and the next thing you know your at a completely different point in your life, you realize you're not in that spot and those feelings are no longer coursing through you anymore. Feels like such a missed opportunity. Currently I'm tackling with how to grasp those moments and represent them honestly, maybe there could be some pros to that, it could all be clearer to understand those moments in retrospect, yet it loses that blind honesty of not knowing whats ahead. Just something I've been thinking about, I've got a project underway and life has sort of raced by hectically during the planning of it all, I couldn't get it all down!

Edit: I've found for me though that music is the key to bringing these things back, I usually document key moments unintentionally through music. The music I had gravitated towards and listened to during those times sort of imprints itself onto one another, later on I'll listen to those specific tracks to sort of relive those ideas and emotions while engaging in the creative process. I'm using an extensive playlist that I compiled over the last couple of years to get things flowing and up to speed. It's pretty universal but for me music plays a huge part in conjuring visuals.

Anyways great track I came across last night, gets real sick at 2:35 and onward.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 10:24 AM

View PostNomrah, on 13 September 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

Sort of off-topic but this nin business has got me thinking about this once more. But It hits me whenever I'm writing or creating something personal. When you write something down when your in that place, it's priceless. It's sort of frustrating when you plan to create something while your in that pure state of mind, yet you wait and the next thing you know your at a completely different point in your life, you realize you're not in that spot and those feelings are no longer coursing through you anymore. Feels like such a missed opportunity. Currently I'm tackling with how to grasp those moments and represent them honestly, maybe there could be some pros to that, it could all be clearer to understand those moments in retrospect, yet it loses that blind honesty of not knowing whats ahead. Just something I've been thinking about, I've got a project underway and life has sort of raced by hectically during the planning of it all, I couldn't get it all down!

preach brother!

you know what I want to add to that, and it's a personal experience thing more than any kind of rule cuz idk if this applies to others, is that while a lot of the time I also have to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak, I also have to sometimes step away from what i'm working on because I'll get caught up in executing bad ideas or ideas that simply don't belong or have a place, just because I like the idea that much. I'll end up making something subpar because of it and I think that it's important sometimes to understand that while you gotta be immersed to make something great you also can't be drowning in it because then you can't see what you're doing or think clearly. You start making crap, for lack of a better term lol.

a good example is when I used to play AC. Sometimes I'd get too obsessed with an idea of how to do something, or make something, and next thing you know I'm making a bot that's garbage just to satisfy the idea. That happens for me with all kinds of stuff (writing, other video games, home projects, etc). Gotta be able to step back and look at stuff once in awhile.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 03:27 PM

Damn man, I know exactly what your saying word for word. Once you step away you can look at all of what was produced during that time and pick and choose the best and what would fit best alongside the bigger picture. Just recently I have looked back at material and ideas I had wished to incorporate, putting in all of that would be overbearing and convoluted and as you said drowning when compared to the rest of the picture. I'm able now to shave away and cut the stuff that wouldn't necessarily fit alongside everything else. The moments of passion, and the pros of the retrospect, the creative process all works itself out. I definitely appreciate your input, thanks.
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Posted 15 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostYUNG ADULT CONTEMPORARY, on 13 September 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

Long story short I think it's best to play loud on headphones, but not out loud.

This is pretty much exactly what I thought. It was kind of nice when I turned the volume up, but it's still more of background music to me than anything.

Trent has always been my favorite artist and was pretty much the one who got me interested in music in the first place, so I was really hoping that this would leave more of an impact on me. I don't think anyone is capable of composing pure diamond 24/7/365 though, so it's all good. <3

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 12:08 PM

hell yeah NIN rules

for me, he's made so much music that's impacted my life in a big way that he'll pretty much always have a pass in my book

I think I said it before but he could put out trash albums for the rest of his life and it wouldnt change my opinion on him or his work

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:35 PM

I've been giving The Slip another round. Probably first time I've really listened to it since 08'. Such a raw listen, gets in there and does its thing and it's got plenty of depth over the course of the album. It's both aggressive and deep. I think I might be appreciating it more now than I did back then, might've took it for granted being free and slightly shorter. I'm also actually liking "Discipline" a lot this time around, and that pretty much means I really like every song on the album. Head Down and Lights in the Sky are so great.

I pretty much have "nin fever" once again, a number of times over the years I'll find myself getting into nin to the point where I have to go through my entire nin catalog till I'm burnt out. I don't do this with too many artists, Trent just has a gift for making each and every album totally unique from one another, each one has it's own distinct theme and feel.

Also PD did you end up getting tickets? I'm afraid I didn't get myself to the point of buying any.

Best remix and I usually don't care for remixes, 2:40 is one of my favorite things in music.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 12:01 AM

No for the NIN one I didn't because I leave for Beijing the same night as his show so I said screw it

Also Jay Z tickets went on sale and I got those instead

I missed out on Kanye tho so I can't go to his upcoming tour

The Slip is great, NIN's 4th best album imo

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 04:54 PM

Alright. You got Jay Z to look forward to so that's cool.
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Posted 16 September 2013 - 05:08 PM

yeah I woulda got both but I'll prolly miss that flight if I try to do the NIN show

I went to a Slint show the night before leaving for Guanacaste once that wasn't so bad but the flight was like at 3-4 in the afternoon departure time, I think the Beijing departure time is actually wild early but I forget

either way it's just not reasonable to try and go :(

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:18 PM

Yeah man I hear ya. Me on the other hand, I just didn't get tickets because I didn't get around to making any plans for it haha, maybe next time, I have a feeling Trent's pumped for a few more rounds.
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Posted 17 September 2013 - 09:24 AM

here's hoping!

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 03:51 PM

*shrugs*

I think the new stuff isn't as good not that he's depressed and on drugs.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:49 PM

watch this classic NIN vid. 1997.

Edited by Top Notch Pilot, 14 November 2013 - 01:49 PM.

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