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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:50 AM

  • Mike

    aite im bout to start this fuckin review of nin album

    just got home

    listened to a ton of g.o.o.d. music and tde shit

    at my parents house

    while watching the US get humiliated

    by my country

    intro is sik I fks with it 2nd track is rad its a lot like

    uuhhh The Slip

    style music

    wait are u guys even nin fans

    I'm not totally following these lyrics yet

    but I like them

    also I like the bridges

    yeah this song woulda been a worthy Slip song for sure "Copy Of A"

    looking sharp so far guys!

    honestly Copy Of A sounded way worse in the car this makes me feel good right now

    I know trent was saying this shit was practically made for audiophile equipment and my headphones aren't quite that but they're really good ones so that might be why this is sounding better so far

    motherfucker said uhhh Deluxe version has a DLable audiophile version of the album, pretentious fuck

    man wtf this shitty single actually sounds pretty dope now

    fucking headphones fuck you trent

    yo this shit fkn rocks on headphones

    at least the good ones I'm sujre I listened to came back haunted on earbuds off soundcloud and usually sc is real good for that

    well w/e

    sure*

    find my way starts like uhhhh fk there's a slower song on year zero in the later half of it, sounds like that so far but shittier cuz the idea in yz was doper for the tempo
  • John

    so you're saying so far you def recommend picking this up
  • Michael

    the first 3 songs ya

    by first 3 i mean intro and 2 songs intro is a min

    its only dope if ur listening on good headphones so far tho cuz in car i'll come clean came back haunted sounded terrible

    and utoob video of it sounded bad no surprise tho...its utoob
  • John

    well i have these dope new headphones
  • Michael

    ill send u album then

    oh

    wait, no i cant send it cuz its not on this laptop

    sorry

    this song is okay "find my way" honestly it sounds too much like he wants to be vespertine bjork tho

    and the lyrics sound stupid but the music is nice enough that i can ignore them most of the time, thanks heavens that whtppl music trends that way

    this song needs to end tho

    this shit could get at least a minute trimmed

    these songs are running long which im not totally okay with but it hasn't bugged me on headphones til now with this song

    in the car it bothered me from the drop

    man what is this bullshit

    aite here we go

    funky guitar

    and its moving up and down in weird directions note wise fk standard musical structure huh trent

    omfg i jut looked at time for this track

    its gonna be another 6 min song

    fucking trent u piece of shit

    this song tho at least its trying to do shit he did on fragile...just not as good cuz he's using all the sensibilities he developed post-teeth

    omfg final fantasy tinkles

    yo I like ff as much as the next guy but cmon

    and there's still 1:30 left

    those tinkles took me out of the song im kinda mad cuz this song i was feeling

    no

    i'm very mad

    that song coulda been dope without this nonsense, please stop reminding me that u aren't tds/fragile nin its just making me angry

    i will say tho as a general knock the lyrics have been consistently ignorable to bad throughout aside from that first track i wanna say? Copy Of A

    This song isn't good by any stretch

    but its not bad

    "disappointed"

    it'd be good for listening to at work or while doing something, altho that goes for the whole album so far tbh

    "blase" would have been an appropriate name tho!

    its another song that wishes it was a fragile track

    let it go trentyboy ur not that guy anymore

    WE DONT BELIEVE YOU YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE

    aye wtf how is this song still going

    jesus christ

    it ended on a sound reminiscent of that jungle sounding track on ghosts

    but like...I didnt want to hear it I wanted it to end.

    lol

    omg wtf is this

    this is a terrible terrible start

    "everything"

    it, shit, I'm trying to think of what it sounds like

    but I'll put it this way since I cant think of anything, it reminds me of early-mid 00's rock

    so i guess silversun pickups n shit

    but worste

    worse*

    it even has like same chord progressions on guitars and same breakdowns

    man this song blows I didn't need to rehash shitty rock

    ur nin so do nin things

    this song is only like 330 tho thank god he musta got as bored making it as I did listening to it

    shit man satellite sounds like a weaker version of one of the early songs but I can't remember which? Everything is starting to sound the same in my head?

    I remember this was around the time I started hitting skip over and over in my car

    this song isn't bad tho I guess in the car it was garbage but now its just okay

    again tho it sounds like some shit someone else should be doing better

    like if prince did this i bet this would sound fucking crazy

    lol the 80s style guitar tones and picking at the end of this song sound more dated on it than they do on PHM...which was practically made in the 80s

    what a guy

    he's doing the wannabe tds/fragile style ending too ugh stop reminding me man fk

    "only" 5 min btw, that last track.

    so 40 min later we're at track 9 of 14?

    was that autotune??

    I think I just heard autotune on "various methods of escape" in this first verse

    hmm maybe not it might just be a voice filter

    i key'd in on it and while it still sounded corny it wasn't as offensive

    and another fragile style end FUCK YOU

    OH GEE its not the fucking end because trent doesn't END SONGS ANYMORE JOHN

    motherfucker thinks he's OG metallica

    oh this sounds cool at least

    u did a wannabefragile sound that sounds kinda cool

    im referring to like idk, last 40 seconds of track 9

    and u blow it in the last 5 seconds

    w/e

    listening to these last few tracks specifically 7 to now, but prolly like 4-5 to now, these sound like ghosts beats but with words now

    that would explain why I feel like this would be good background music

    this track is fairly boring, and a few of the little tricks he's doing to make it interesting are vaguely insulting

    idk why song is bugging me? I cant put my finger on it but something has me getting irritated, i think i just feel kinda pandered too right now and im not liking that

    it feels like minute 8 tho

    says 3:46 and he keeps saying im running out

    someone shoulda told him that in the fucking studio

    okay this song started decent

    "I Would For You"

    is this the one that harmon was fkn with?

    anyways its pretty good

    altho I couldnt tell u why

    I'll say this tho

    the beat reminds me of P&P 1.5 which is 500x better than this song

    oh and She Lives In My Lap too for some reason, mainly the like opening of that song?

    it too is like 500x better than this song

    but I digress

    those two are phenomenal songs so there's that at least

    its not fair to compare

    this song is pretty good tho

    oh neat it went straigtht into In Two

    another fragile trick!

    at least this was cool tho

    I wonder if I got fragile on vinyl I feel like listening to it now

    yo FUCK this chorus

    fuck

    I thought you're were gonna do some gay shit again but you did goddamnit right when I was feeling this again

    thank heavens this is pretty good at least, the muffled out guitar was kind of a great idea

    tds/fragile trick

    he uhhh

    took out everything but guitar and sang a few words over n over

    and slowly brings in other noises/sounds

    its 11 now

    and this song has another 20 seconds

    and its showing 2 more tracks

    his crescendo wasn't fragile tier

    no surprise

    man fuck this song sounds like the last fucking 6

    "While I'm Still Here" jesus son u named these songs wild appropriate huh?

    u def been making the same fucking sound for last 6 hours

    u know tho this song, if it was old trent could prolly be really fucking good

    the lyrics and delivery just aren't what they used to be

    like if we got trent from Still on here this shit would be fire prolly

    and this end sucked it was like fake sax of some kind I didnt like that

    im notplussed by final track it felt like a way faggier version of the end to tds which is kinda disturbing and rad

    alright done

    so bscly the song structure every time sums up the album: it started strong but meandered too much, got weak near the end but sometimes he'd find a way to give it one last push before just eating pavement

    a lot of songs sound to much alike but a lot of them are okay

    no fucking way i'll listen to this without good headphones tho in the car it sounded awful

    he's trying to be too cute I think like vespertine with the micro-beats n shit, its funny cuz in tds and fragile he actually was pro at manipulating the atmosphere with all the extra sound but he clearly doesn't have it in him to reproduce tha

    t
  • Michael

    m left with the feeling he was trying to get back to tds/fragile sound but with his new sound instead and that sorta bugged me but otherwise the album isnt bad (on headhpones)

    john i'd wait til i can send u it to listen cuz u might not fuck with this, shit if I wasnt a nin fanboy I prolly wouldnt have bought this either

    man tds is so much better than this album tho hahahahahaha fuck
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tl;dr it's okay, kinda boring. Its not half the album The Downward Spiral is, but most things aren't. Think about buying if you have spare money cuz it's good background music, otherwise steal/borrow first OR go buy TDS instead cuz TDS is worth it always.

Oh and yeah I didn't edit a thing (aside from the user names) so if its messy, that's just how it happened while I was typing.

Edited by YUNG ADULT CONTEMPORARY, 07 September 2013 - 12:52 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:58 AM

Beautiful, I'll need time to digest this and I'm probably supposed to be sleeping right now.

But for now I'll drop this link to complement the review and for those simply interested in listening to the album.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:03 AM

for sure bro

if you want me to elaborate on anything or ask something just go right ahead, now that I got my stream of concious review out I'm down to explain shit I was thinking (assuming I remember after hahahahah)

oh I should add this cuz I guess it might not be obvious but bscly this is the 2nd worst album I've heard from him. With Teeth is prolly still worse.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:44 AM

What are the good tracks?

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:37 AM

off top of my head the ones I remember were tracks 2, 3, and the one nomrah linked earlier (that's 10 I think)

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:15 AM

Eh, I downloaded the album on Pirate Bay.

I'm not feeling this album.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:22 AM

ya that's kinda what I expect

I think music critics will give the album a pass but I doubt the streets are gonna show it the same love aside from blind fanboys

thing is nin is at that point where putting out a trash album doesn't mean shit anymore Trent is unimpeachable at this point

Dood could put out 5 shitty albums in a row and it prolly wouldn't affect his ticket sales for live shows n shit, or the memories fans have of his work

i know I'd still buy tickets to his live show bad album or not

He's still top 3 live shows I've seen

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 12:56 AM

View PostYUNG ADULT CONTEMPORARY, on 07 September 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

ya that's kinda what I expect I think music critics will give the album a pass but I doubt the streets are gonna show it the same love aside from blind fanboys thing is nin is at that point where putting out a trash album doesn't mean shit anymore Trent is unimpeachable at this point Dood could put out 5 shitty albums in a row and it prolly wouldn't affect his ticket sales for live shows n shit, or the memories fans have of his work i know I'd still buy tickets to his live show bad album or not He's still top 3 live shows I've seen

It is true. Trent is pretty solidified at this point.

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Just got done really listening to the whole album. And with your review, the things you said rang true with me. A good supply of readily forgettable tracks, stuff I'd never really feel like going back to. Ghost tracks with words was what you said and that's how I'm feeling, I'm sure he approached a degree of minimalism on purpose but it really left me feeling unfulfilled. Background music for the most part. It's no surprise "Came Back Haunted" was chosen as the first single, I thought that one was boring, but it's pretty much the most lively "single-like" track he could come up with from the batch.

I thought a few approaches on vocals were amusing on this one, he tried some upbeat clean vocals that are sort of not common, but he stayed pretty quiet for the most part. Definitely some of the most upbeat/neutral tunes on this album. The track "Everything" haha, his vocals in that were amusing.

What is really bothering me though is his approach on song structure that he's been using for the last few albums, his albums used to mesh together for the most part and had strong dynamics that kept things moving along. Now its just, song starts with simple synth beat, words start coming in, changes into some chorus, things build up a bit, then song ends, then wait as next song rolls in and once again simple synth beat. Things kind of sit dead in the water on this one with its overall simplistic and quiet tone.

But, there were occasional standout moments that got me listening. But right now I feel they were few and far between. A new track that I think was pretty good was "Various Methods of Escape", "All Time Low" was almost pretty good, "Fragile-esque", but spaced out way too much with them ff tinkles, oh well. A lot of the songs were just too long, and didn't do enough to support their length.

"I Would For You" is still my favorite track off the album.

That ending track demonstrated that he can still make some really cool sounding stuff though.

Anyways I'm sort of tired of these predominantly computer generated nin albums. Everything's been following the same routine for like the last 3 or 4 albums, things just seem constrained in structure, less natural/organic and lacks the degree of dynamics I used to hear. Personally I think incorporating his gang of studio musicians to a greater extent would be a really good idea. One things for sure though, Trent really has mastered making music by himself on a laptop, he does do amazing things.

I do find it to be an alright album, definitely the album I've shown the most interest in for a good while, I don't get wrapped up in too many albums these days honestly. So I do appreciate this one, it is good ear candy for me.

Anyways I'll drop this track. One that I mentioned that I have an appreciation for, was listening to it a good deal while writing this, it is a bit slow but has some strong movement. The whole thing flows nicely and builds up well, a standout track for sure.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 02:56 AM

It's probably driven by the label a bit too.

People expect albums even if the artist can't really make a good one.

Trent ain't dodging the money either thou.

I'd imagine he's going to do old shit at the shows anyhow.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 10:15 AM

Yeah nomrah that all sounds a lot like what I was thinking.

The only album that's truly pissed me off is the new David Bowie album, cuz that album is fucking awful. Might be the worst thing I've heard in like 2-3 years.

View PostEnganacious, on 08 September 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

It's probably driven by the label a bit too.

He is the label. He went independent after making With Teeth. Ghosts is the first album he made on his own label.

To be honest he is doing fine as an artist. He's still winning grammies all the time because he's become a go-to guy for creating movie soundtracks, and his new band has been doing good, as well. There probably isn't anything or anyone on the planet that could force him into making a new album. At most he's paper chasing cuz he figures why not, but knowing how that guy works he probably wanted to do it cuz he got the itch to make a NIN album. Listening to it I never got the sense that he had sold out, only that he simply isn't in the same headspace he was. I can't really blame the guy for changing when it was natural.

That's part of why I was sorta lenient on my review in the end. I think it was an honest effort by the guy, he's just the same guy anymore. Stuff like that happens to everyone, really. We don't stay hungry forever hahaha.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 04:36 PM

The more you know.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:38 PM

I was thinking about nin today at work, sort of reviewing the career. Whenever I think of peak performance nin I always end up thinking of this song. Easily one of my favorites, I can have this one going on in my head for awhile.



Not saying it's the the single best nin song, but it's certainly powerful.

Anyways I checked out some lyrics on the new album. The new song "Satellite", Trent makes a dig at Obama, pretty good.

"Yes we can, yes we did
Eliminate, despair
Better watch, what you think
What was that, you said?
Everywhere, and everything
And every word, you say
Think I found, a way around
Think I found, a way"

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:18 PM

he likes making political coments the entirety of Year Zero is a big fuck you to george bush

Hell I think he might have literally said "fuck you george bush" in a few of the interviews

I know he did during the shows for Year Zero, he even had George Bush on the monitors and told the crowd to give him what for

He wasn't always like that but post With Teeth he went from self-hating to govt-hating, makes sense for the kind of music he makes

I don't know if there's anything he hates more than republicans tbh

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:08 PM

Yeah, that's why I thought it was a neat find, given how much support Trent had initially shown towards Obama. I don't think people should be getting themselves stuck on Republican/Democrat at this point, there's obviously a bigger problem involving more than the two parties.

Knowing how much Trent has been incorporating politics into his recent albums, I kind of expected to find something on the album regarding recent on goings. In this case it seems some NSA tracking, surveillance business. I was going to be sort of disappointed if he didn't to be honest, given how much has been going down these past years.

Also, I've been giving the new album more listens, more and more is starting to stick with me.
Now I'm trying to figure out the overall theme, pretty sure its intended to be a concept album, not sure though haven't even read all the lyrics yet.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:17 PM

View PostNomrah, on 11 September 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

I don't think people should be getting themselves stuck on Republican/Democrat at this point, there's obviously a bigger problem involving more than the two parties.

I'm not stuck on that. I only stated his view cuz you brought up his politics. I don't fuck with either party and haven't for years hahaha fuck the US!

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Also, it's not rly that he's been political in his music, I shoulda been more clear on that. I'm saying he's very open politically irl (so like his twitter, facebook, website, interviews, etc). He's only really been politically open on the one album I brought up, Year Zero. The Slip sorta does it but not in as direct a way as Year Zero. I mean if you went to the Year Zero shows you'd know what I mean. The entire show was themed around 1984 with Bush as the head badguy.

Like the Slip kinda boiled down to him talking about himself and his career but in an introspective way; that lead single even started with the line "Am I still tough enough?" Which I think was definitely a message. It's funny cuz now that I think about it there's a some similarities in that to Holy Grail by Jay Z. No surprise I think they're buddies, and I'm 99% sure Hov listens to NIN.

tbh this album has already gotten knocked off the deck on my ipod hahaha the new Janelle Monae came out this week and it's great

i'm still down to talk about NIN or this album tho I just gotta start listening to it again, if it starts making me mad tho I'm gonna just start talking about HOW GREAT TDS IS CUZ MY SISTER JUST REBOUGHT IT AND ITS GREAT.

TDS is also on the rotation, to be clear

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

Word is bond.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 02:29 PM

fuckin right

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 07:41 PM

View PostYUNG ADULT CONTEMPORARY, on 11 September 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

I'm not stuck on that. I only stated his view cuz you brought up his politics. I don't fuck with either party and haven't for years hahaha fuck the US!

Yes, word.

I was down with Trent's Bush bashing, and Year Zero was great. At the show I went to on the With Teeth tour during "Right Where it Belongs" there was a mesmerizing film being played on the big screen, at one point it shows Bush dancing at some ball with his wife, place went wild haha.

Also not gonna lie, I had Hesitation Marks tunes flowing through my head all day at work today, even songs I never payed as much attention to before. I had listened to it on my big speakers the night before.

Yeah, as far as TDS is concerned, that album is a living thing. An album can't get any more pure than that. My first experience with TDS is pretty great, I've never been more honestly thrown off by an album as much as that. I was in 7th grade when I decided I wanted to dive into NIN, I only knew of NIN from my older brother. Not really knowing what it was all about me and a buddy went to the cd store and I snagged my copy of TDS. All I knew is that I was after something rockin' and heavy, my ideas on heavy music were fairly typical at that point, I had no idea what I was in for. Put it in my friends CD player, fuck, first track dude getting fucking beat it was more like I was being subjected to something rather than being entertained haha. Skip to the second song, very low key Piggy comes on, a bit intimidating, then Heresy, goddamn. I was very intrigued by that point, I knew I had found something special, I took it home and the rest is history.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 09:02 PM

You're really starting to feel hesitation marks huh?

that kinda makes sense to me since I don't mind it at work at all I just hate it in my car, so like I think in that way it would potentially get into my brain

TDS is great cuz its the like most famous example of industrial but that genre never ever blew up lol not like NIN did

NIN are like one of the most successful acts in popular music of the last 20+ years, industrial is kinda lame

Bjork is the same way with uhhhhh trip hop. She did that shit major and yet that genre is ass

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 09:40 PM

Yeah, the material had started to sink in over time. I'll be honest I hadn't actually picked up a physical copy until yesterday after I realized that I was truly starting to dig it. Stuff I sort of passed over I'm now feeling. It's got good melody and vibes, stuff on it progresses nicely with good buildup which lead to some shining moments, I guess I could describe it as being pretty smooth.

Whenever I would consider myself a fan of "industrial" It was pretty much due to NIN haha, I find it funny when the "industrial purists" crawl out and attempt to knock Trent. I do usually like industrial when it's fused with other genres though, Rammstein is a good example. I do like Skinny Puppy, Trent was sort of influenced by them, he has stated that his first single "Down in It" was heavily influenced by "Dig It". And Wumpscut is another industrial artist I have shown appreciation for over the years. That's about as far as I go with industrial though, most of the other stuff gets pretty redundant.

Same with Trip Hop, I've shown interest in the genre, Bjork's Debut is a favorite of mine. I like the Sneaker Pimps, and Akira Yamaoko (Silent Hill composer) has done things to generate my interest in the sound of trip hop. But basically once again, I like it when artists really take the genre to different places and do there own thing with it, and that's when the "purists" start to hate haha, fuck them.

Edited by Nomrah, 12 September 2013 - 09:42 PM.

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