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Goddammit. One of my greatest pet peeves, cheap and embarrassing computer graphics, that cloud of smoke in the room was sensory overload for me. If your going to do something like this for a video, keep it real. Also, don't show a curious photo with computer effects more than once for more than 20 seconds.

Although the face at 3:13 was pretty fucked up though, I liked that.

 

This whole release of new content is rather disappointing so far.

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I haven't yet no. I did hear some new material about a week ago that was released that sort of turned me off, that "Copy of A" song. It is nin so it wouldn't hurt to snag a copy regardless. I'd definitely be into hearing your thoughts on it if you end up grabbing it.
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I got a copy haven't listend to it yet, I might even do a live first listen review in the thread, john knows i love to do those and they can get pretty funny

 

i'm reviewing at least an album a week on facebook to that guy hahahah

 

Oh I heard copy of a and thought it was great except that it goes on for way too fucking long

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Song off the album that I can really dig. I love the whole constant flow of the beat and waves of background synth, as well as catchy melody and a strong ending that easily rides out the vibe and momentum that was built during the course of the song.

 

 

Still think you might do that review PD? John told me about your reviews a little bit, would be great fun for sure.

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Song off the album that I can really dig. I love the whole constant flow of the beat and waves of background synth, as well as catchy melody and a strong ending that easily rides out the vibe and momentum that was built during the course of the song.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJQs-ShfsMc

 

Still think you might do that review PD? John told me about your reviews a little bit, would be great fun for sure.

 

Yes and no

 

I already sorta listened to the whole thing once in the car so it won't be a TRUE first listen review but

 

There's a 100% chance of the review happening (on saturday most likely) and I'll be treating it as a first listen review anyways, mainly that I stream of concious post the whole time

 

Truth is I want to do it sooner (I'd be doing it right now) if I had a fucking drive but I don't :( so I gotta go buy an external cd drive for my laptop, or at least burn it onto someone else's pc then take it off of their itunes

 

I'll avoid saying anything about my listen in the car today tho

 

Instead I'll say that Ready To Die's ending like 1/4th was way worse than I remember

 

Maybe it's cuz it's remaster cuz honestly I don't remember it being 19 songs long?

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  • Mike
     
    aite im bout to start this fuckin review of nin album
     
    just got home
     
    listened to a ton of g.o.o.d. music and tde shit
     
    at my parents house
     
    while watching the US get humiliated
     
    by my country
     
    intro is sik I fks with it 2nd track is rad its a lot like
     
    uuhhh The Slip
     
    style music
     
    wait are u guys even nin fans
     
    I'm not totally following these lyrics yet
     
    but I like them
     
    also I like the bridges
     
    yeah this song woulda been a worthy Slip song for sure "Copy Of A"
     
    looking sharp so far guys!
     
    honestly Copy Of A sounded way worse in the car this makes me feel good right now
     
    I know trent was saying this shit was practically made for audiophile equipment and my headphones aren't quite that but they're really good ones so that might be why this is sounding better so far
     
    motherfucker said uhhh Deluxe version has a DLable audiophile version of the album, pretentious fuck
     
    man wtf this shitty single actually sounds pretty dope now
     
    fucking headphones fuck you trent
     
    yo this shit fkn rocks on headphones
     
    at least the good ones I'm sujre I listened to came back haunted on earbuds off soundcloud and usually sc is real good for that
     
    well w/e
     
    sure*
     
    find my way starts like uhhhh fk there's a slower song on year zero in the later half of it, sounds like that so far but shittier cuz the idea in yz was doper for the tempo
  • John
     
    so you're saying so far you def recommend picking this up
  • Michael
     
    the first 3 songs ya
     
    by first 3 i mean intro and 2 songs intro is a min
     
    its only dope if ur listening on good headphones so far tho cuz in car i'll come clean came back haunted sounded terrible
     
    and utoob video of it sounded bad no surprise tho...its utoob
  • John
     
    well i have these dope new headphones
  • Michael
     
    ill send u album then
     
    oh
     
    wait, no i cant send it cuz its not on this laptop
     
    sorry
     
    this song is okay "find my way" honestly it sounds too much like he wants to be vespertine bjork tho
     
    and the lyrics sound stupid but the music is nice enough that i can ignore them most of the time, thanks heavens that whtppl music trends that way
     
    this song needs to end tho
     
    this shit could get at least a minute trimmed
     
    these songs are running long which im not totally okay with but it hasn't bugged me on headphones til now with this song
     
    in the car it bothered me from the drop
     
    man what is this bullshit
     
    aite here we go
     
    funky guitar
     
    and its moving up and down in weird directions note wise fk standard musical structure huh trent
     
    omfg i jut looked at time for this track
     
    its gonna be another 6 min song
     
    fucking trent u piece of shit
     
    this song tho at least its trying to do shit he did on fragile...just not as good cuz he's using all the sensibilities he developed post-teeth
     
    omfg final fantasy tinkles
     
    yo I like ff as much as the next guy but cmon
     
    and there's still 1:30 left
     
    those tinkles took me out of the song im kinda mad cuz this song i was feeling
     
    no
     
    i'm very mad
     
    that song coulda been dope without this nonsense, please stop reminding me that u aren't tds/fragile nin its just making me angry
     
    i will say tho as a general knock the lyrics have been consistently ignorable to bad throughout aside from that first track i wanna say? Copy Of A
     
    This song isn't good by any stretch
     
    but its not bad
     
    "disappointed"
     
    it'd be good for listening to at work or while doing something, altho that goes for the whole album so far tbh
     
    "blase" would have been an appropriate name tho!
     
    its another song that wishes it was a fragile track
     
    let it go trentyboy ur not that guy anymore
     
    WE DONT BELIEVE YOU YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE
     
    aye wtf how is this song still going
     
    jesus christ
     
    it ended on a sound reminiscent of that jungle sounding track on ghosts
     
    but like...I didnt want to hear it I wanted it to end.
     
    lol
     
    omg wtf is this
     
    this is a terrible terrible start
     
    "everything"
     
    it, shit, I'm trying to think of what it sounds like
     
    but I'll put it this way since I cant think of anything, it reminds me of early-mid 00's rock
     
    so i guess silversun pickups n shit
     
    but worste
     
    worse*
     
    it even has like same chord progressions on guitars and same breakdowns
     
    man this song blows I didn't need to rehash shitty rock
     
    ur nin so do nin things
     
    this song is only like 330 tho thank god he musta got as bored making it as I did listening to it
     
    shit man satellite sounds like a weaker version of one of the early songs but I can't remember which? Everything is starting to sound the same in my head?
     
    I remember this was around the time I started hitting skip over and over in my car
     
    this song isn't bad tho I guess in the car it was garbage but now its just okay
     
    again tho it sounds like some shit someone else should be doing better
     
    like if prince did this i bet this would sound fucking crazy
     
    lol the 80s style guitar tones and picking at the end of this song sound more dated on it than they do on PHM...which was practically made in the 80s
     
    what a guy
     
    he's doing the wannabe tds/fragile style ending too ugh stop reminding me man fk
     
    "only" 5 min btw, that last track.
     
    so 40 min later we're at track 9 of 14?
     
    was that autotune??
     
    I think I just heard autotune on "various methods of escape" in this first verse
     
    hmm maybe not it might just be a voice filter
     
    i key'd in on it and while it still sounded corny it wasn't as offensive
     
    and another fragile style end FUCK YOU
     
    OH GEE its not the fucking end because trent doesn't END SONGS ANYMORE JOHN
     
    motherfucker thinks he's OG metallica
     
    oh this sounds cool at least
     
    u did a wannabefragile sound that sounds kinda cool
     
    im referring to like idk, last 40 seconds of track 9
     
    and u blow it in the last 5 seconds
     
    w/e
     
    listening to these last few tracks specifically 7 to now, but prolly like 4-5 to now, these sound like ghosts beats but with words now
     
    that would explain why I feel like this would be good background music
     
    this track is fairly boring, and a few of the little tricks he's doing to make it interesting are vaguely insulting
     
    idk why song is bugging me? I cant put my finger on it but something has me getting irritated, i think i just feel kinda pandered too right now and im not liking that
     
    it feels like minute 8 tho
     
    says 3:46 and he keeps saying im running out
     
    someone shoulda told him that in the fucking studio
     
    okay this song started decent
     
    "I Would For You"
     
    is this the one that harmon was fkn with?
     
    anyways its pretty good
     
    altho I couldnt tell u why
     
    I'll say this tho
     
    the beat reminds me of P&P 1.5 which is 500x better than this song
     
    oh and She Lives In My Lap too for some reason, mainly the like opening of that song?
     
    it too is like 500x better than this song
     
    but I digress
     
    those two are phenomenal songs so there's that at least
     
    its not fair to compare
     
    this song is pretty good tho
     
    oh neat it went straigtht into In Two
     
    another fragile trick!
     
    at least this was cool tho
     
    I wonder if I got fragile on vinyl I feel like listening to it now
     
    yo FUCK this chorus
     
    fuck
     
    I thought you're were gonna do some gay shit again but you did goddamnit right when I was feeling this again
     
    thank heavens this is pretty good at least, the muffled out guitar was kind of a great idea
     
    tds/fragile trick
     
    he uhhh
     
    took out everything but guitar and sang a few words over n over
     
    and slowly brings in other noises/sounds
     
    its 11 now
     
    and this song has another 20 seconds
     
    and its showing 2 more tracks
     
    his crescendo wasn't fragile tier
     
    no surprise
     
    man fuck this song sounds like the last fucking 6
     
    "While I'm Still Here" jesus son u named these songs wild appropriate huh?
     
    u def been making the same fucking sound for last 6 hours
     
    u know tho this song, if it was old trent could prolly be really fucking good
     
    the lyrics and delivery just aren't what they used to be
     
    like if we got trent from Still on here this shit would be fire prolly
     
    and this end sucked it was like fake sax of some kind I didnt like that
     
    im notplussed by final track it felt like a way faggier version of the end to tds which is kinda disturbing and rad
     
    alright done
     
    so bscly the song structure every time sums up the album: it started strong but meandered too much, got weak near the end but sometimes he'd find a way to give it one last push before just eating pavement
     
    a lot of songs sound to much alike but a lot of them are okay
     
    no fucking way i'll listen to this without good headphones tho in the car it sounded awful
     
    he's trying to be too cute I think like vespertine with the micro-beats n shit, its funny cuz in tds and fragile he actually was pro at manipulating the atmosphere with all the extra sound but he clearly doesn't have it in him to reproduce tha
     
    t
  • Michael
     
    m left with the feeling he was trying to get back to tds/fragile sound but with his new sound instead and that sorta bugged me but otherwise the album isnt bad (on headhpones)
     
    john i'd wait til i can send u it to listen cuz u might not fuck with this, shit if I wasnt a nin fanboy I prolly wouldnt have bought this either
     
    man tds is so much better than this album tho hahahahahaha fuck

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woulda been up sooner but my firefox is being stupid

 

tl;dr it's okay, kinda boring. Its not half the album The Downward Spiral is, but most things aren't. Think about buying if you have spare money cuz it's good background music, otherwise steal/borrow first OR go buy TDS instead cuz TDS is worth it always.

 

Oh and yeah I didn't edit a thing (aside from the user names) so if its messy, that's just how it happened while I was typing.

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for sure bro

 

if you want me to elaborate on anything or ask something just go right ahead, now that I got my stream of concious review out I'm down to explain shit I was thinking (assuming I remember after hahahahah)

 

oh I should add this cuz I guess it might not be obvious but bscly this is the 2nd worst album I've heard from him. With Teeth is prolly still worse.

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ya that's kinda what I expect

 

I think music critics will give the album a pass but I doubt the streets are gonna show it the same love aside from blind fanboys

 

thing is nin is at that point where putting out a trash album doesn't mean shit anymore Trent is unimpeachable at this point

 

Dood could put out 5 shitty albums in a row and it prolly wouldn't affect his ticket sales for live shows n shit, or the memories fans have of his work

 

i know I'd still buy tickets to his live show bad album or not

 

He's still top 3 live shows I've seen

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ya that's kinda what I expect I think music critics will give the album a pass but I doubt the streets are gonna show it the same love aside from blind fanboys thing is nin is at that point where putting out a trash album doesn't mean shit anymore Trent is unimpeachable at this point Dood could put out 5 shitty albums in a row and it prolly wouldn't affect his ticket sales for live shows n shit, or the memories fans have of his work i know I'd still buy tickets to his live show bad album or not He's still top 3 live shows I've seen

 

It is true. Trent is pretty solidified at this point.

 

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Just got done really listening to the whole album. And with your review, the things you said rang true with me. A good supply of readily forgettable tracks, stuff I'd never really feel like going back to. Ghost tracks with words was what you said and that's how I'm feeling, I'm sure he approached a degree of minimalism on purpose but it really left me feeling unfulfilled. Background music for the most part. It's no surprise "Came Back Haunted" was chosen as the first single, I thought that one was boring, but it's pretty much the most lively "single-like" track he could come up with from the batch.

 

I thought a few approaches on vocals were amusing on this one, he tried some upbeat clean vocals that are sort of not common, but he stayed pretty quiet for the most part. Definitely some of the most upbeat/neutral tunes on this album. The track "Everything" haha, his vocals in that were amusing.

 

What is really bothering me though is his approach on song structure that he's been using for the last few albums, his albums used to mesh together for the most part and had strong dynamics that kept things moving along. Now its just, song starts with simple synth beat, words start coming in, changes into some chorus, things build up a bit, then song ends, then wait as next song rolls in and once again simple synth beat. Things kind of sit dead in the water on this one with its overall simplistic and quiet tone.

 

But, there were occasional standout moments that got me listening. But right now I feel they were few and far between. A new track that I think was pretty good was "Various Methods of Escape", "All Time Low" was almost pretty good, "Fragile-esque", but spaced out way too much with them ff tinkles, oh well. A lot of the songs were just too long, and didn't do enough to support their length.

 

"I Would For You" is still my favorite track off the album.

 

That ending track demonstrated that he can still make some really cool sounding stuff though.

 

Anyways I'm sort of tired of these predominantly computer generated nin albums. Everything's been following the same routine for like the last 3 or 4 albums, things just seem constrained in structure, less natural/organic and lacks the degree of dynamics I used to hear. Personally I think incorporating his gang of studio musicians to a greater extent would be a really good idea. One things for sure though, Trent really has mastered making music by himself on a laptop, he does do amazing things.

 

I do find it to be an alright album, definitely the album I've shown the most interest in for a good while, I don't get wrapped up in too many albums these days honestly. So I do appreciate this one, it is good ear candy for me.

 

Anyways I'll drop this track. One that I mentioned that I have an appreciation for, was listening to it a good deal while writing this, it is a bit slow but has some strong movement. The whole thing flows nicely and builds up well, a standout track for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om0lCG1RjHQ

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Yeah nomrah that all sounds a lot like what I was thinking.

 

The only album that's truly pissed me off is the new David Bowie album, cuz that album is fucking awful. Might be the worst thing I've heard in like 2-3 years.

 

It's probably driven by the label a bit too.

 

He is the label. He went independent after making With Teeth. Ghosts is the first album he made on his own label.

 

To be honest he is doing fine as an artist. He's still winning grammies all the time because he's become a go-to guy for creating movie soundtracks, and his new band has been doing good, as well. There probably isn't anything or anyone on the planet that could force him into making a new album. At most he's paper chasing cuz he figures why not, but knowing how that guy works he probably wanted to do it cuz he got the itch to make a NIN album. Listening to it I never got the sense that he had sold out, only that he simply isn't in the same headspace he was. I can't really blame the guy for changing when it was natural.

 

That's part of why I was sorta lenient on my review in the end. I think it was an honest effort by the guy, he's just the same guy anymore. Stuff like that happens to everyone, really. We don't stay hungry forever hahaha.

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