renketsu0

I'm going item hunting tonight if anyone cares to join in. SL 120, psn: renketsu0

Right now I am taking my last character concept and redoing it, except this time with less health (I want it even harder) and omitting useless perks like Ward Absorb and Bladesman to integrate stealth into the mix. I'm also not doing enchanting on it so I'll have to find everything normally.

It was mainly just to do it, it was only afterwards I decided it would double as a test file. The other reason specifically for 709 is so I might have people to play with on it. What are the odds of randomly finding people at arbitrary SL ranges past 120? I figured there would at least be a few more people at max SL than in the ranges between it and 120. But I decided to just say screw it, I don't like spending hours doing things just to do them. If it were a 20 minute job it would be a different story. So I connected and got the patch last night and there's no looking back. Now I need to hunt down items. I'm a little upset I decided to delete my previous files before salvaging useful items from them.

Actually I just calculated about how long it would take to do it with the soul I have and it's much longer than I thought. Several hours too long. I don't think I will do it since that would mean I have to go through a bunch of the game to find the biggest soul, and even then it would still take well over a few hours.

I'll actually be 709 since I'm Wanderer, but yes max SL. I want a file I can just use everything on. It'll be a good test file, and maybe there are some others who actually pvp with them.

I actually decided I wanted to do a SL 7-11 guy before I connect and get the patch. It's gonna take me a while to get 1,674,843,383 souls with a Soul of a Proud Knight. Maybe there's an bigger soul I can find real quick. I'm charging my controller right now so I don't have to sit still.

I will be playing for a little bit tonight with a SL 70 dude and maybe a SL120 guy/gal. I glitched 5 characters last night so I can finally connect and get the patch. I don't want to level too many of them until I see more pvp.

woah, their website looks great!

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Shout I'm just assuming the refresh times there are correct.

My fav is still Unrelenting force by far. You can hit multiples with it, and it keeps them out of combat for nearly 5 seconds at lv 3. Plus low cooldown.

Woah, that's actually a pretty big deal to me. I may consider using master spells now.

I got a Daedric Shield as a quest reward. I don't know if you can find them randomly though, so far I haven't.

Woah didn't know that. Guess I'll have to go ask Ulfirc if an Imperial legionnaire can buy a house in his town

More like time to buy hotels. I got enough to buy the solitude house with just selling all my dragon bones and scales. That's basically all the money I need.

OK here it is I wanted to design a balance point so that my battlemage using one-handed, First I defined a set of battle characteristics I wanted to follow: 1. I die with around 10 normal melee hits from an average enemy 2. Average enemies die in around 10 hits of my normal melee 3. Limited to 3 dual-cast Icy Spear before out of magicka 4. Ward lasts long enough to block about 3 spells while flinging a few spells and not completely kill magicka reserves 5. Magicka recharges fast enough to use ward again after a short while 6. All of this at 100 one-handed, heavy armor, destruction, and restoration I decided to start with an arbitrary amount of magicka, 500, to make this happen. It's easy to obtain with leveling and/or enchants and is easy to derive calculations from. With 500 magicka in order to dual cast (280% cost) 3 expert destruction spells I needed (3 * 2.8 * 320 (base cost) * 0.41 (reduction @ 100 skill) * x) = 500, where x is additional reduction from enchants (additively) That gave me x = 0.45, and I decided to settle on 40% since it's a nice number and I'll have some recharge between spells anyway. So I equipped Nahkriin and another -20% restoration and destruction in enchants. At 40% cost reduction Greater Ward costs 15/sec, which turned out perfect after testing. I chose 250 health and 250 stamina. I wanted to have at least some amount of health so I wouldn't get 2-shotted by mages if I did get hit, and enough stamina to match it. Next on my list was the issue of my survivability and that of my enemies. I didn't do any math here, just threw on some armor and counted how many hits it took for me and a bunch of different enemies to die. I settled on listed 350 armor rating from 4 pieces and 30 listed weapon damage with Juggernaut 5/5 and Armsman 5/5. Lastly was my magicka recharge. I didn't want to be out there burping and farting high level spells indefinitely so I do want this limited, and preferably with reference to my Greater Ward. I wanted my recharge to be slightly lower than the drain from Greater Ward so that if I genbust, 3 seconds of recharge will give me 2 seconds of ward. The base recharge is 3% of your total magicka per second out of combat and .99% in combat. Since combat is the only thing I care about here, I need (0.0099 * 500 magicka * x = 10 ( 2/3 the drain of the ward), where x is additional magicka regen bonus from enchants and perks(additively) Rounding .0099 to .01 that gave me x = 2, or 200%. The results of these restrictions were near perfect. I can die very quickly if I have 2-3 enemies aggro'd, I don't kill them too quickly for my fragility to not matter, and thus I need to take some extra caution at every step. I like being forced to take extra measures such as placing that fire rune before I engage, making melee dudes walk through multiple lines of Wall of Frost to get to me, and still being able to get trampled over if I don't switch to heal at the right intervals. Missing any of my potential advantages could easily be the death of me and keeps the thrill at its peak. For reference my equip is 2 Blades Sword Head: Nahkriin (Flawless) Armor: Blades Armor (Flawless) Hands: Blades Gauntlets (Flawless) Feet: Blades Boots (Flawless) Various custom enchants totaling -20% restoration and destruction, +150% magicka regen, + 100 magicka (to reach 500) Archmage Robes and Otar as alternates Relevant combat perks: Armsman 5/5, Fighting Stance, Savage Strike, Dual Flurry 2/2, Dual Savagery Juggernaut 5/5 Novice Destruction, Apprentice Destruction, Adept Destruction, Expert Destruction, Augmented Flames/Frost/Shock 2/2, Destruction Dual Casting, Impact Novice Restoration, Apprentice Restoration, Adept Restoration, Expert Restoration, Respite, Regeneration, Restoration Dual Casting (strictly for wards), Recovery 2/2, Ward Absorb (dissapointing absorption amount though) The End

This is exactly the reason I didn't go that route. Mages doing 2x damage tend to smoke characters with low health since armor doesn't matter, and I only have 250. I'd rather not be forced to stack magic resists just so I can have a legendary armor rating. With that said, I've made much progress at finding "the sweet spot" of how good to make my character on default difficulty to enjoy the battles and get killed every now and then. I'll post my setup soon for reference.

I've done maxing before. The thing is it's pretty fun to use your imagination to try and create the most broken character in existence. After doing this about 3 times however I realized the one thing I hated about it was that the fun was only temporary. Once the dude was maxed the game was no longer fun. Everything dies in 1 hit and there really isn't any thinking or caution needed to beat anybody. Now I prefer to specifically limit my character so that enemies can still give me a hard time in numbers of 2-3, and at 4-5 I stand a good chance of dying. I also limit the number of health and magicka potions I carry to 3 each. To me being close to death is pretty thrilling, and even more if you survive and beat the enemies with some witty on-the-fly strategy. Maxing is still occasionally fun, but it's short-lived so I try not to.

Just how much of my post did you read?

Easy. Put everything into destruction except the "if health is low" perks and Rune Master. Put perks into the armor of your choice. Done. Restoration is optional but recommended if you don't have decent health. My guy is 350 magicka (plus 100 in enchants), 250 health, 250 stamina, but that's because I use blades too. You could easily just dump the extra 100 stamina into health and that lessens the need for restoration. Or if you're going the broken route you don't need any magicka or cost reduction perks at all since everything's free. You'd have like 650 health plus damage reduction from armor and free-cast the highest damaging stuff. Very few perks required for that build.

It's all about prioritizing things for me. I play both, but when I favor one game over another, it's gonna get the most play. 24 hours is much too little for me to play both equally and still do everything else I like to do. And sleep.

I prefer Skyrim. Of course Skyrim isn't multiplayer but when I want some head-to-head action I play a fighting game. EDIT: I'll be honest, I would totally play Skyrim over anything else if it was multiplayer. I would play DS more if spells were actually a reliable form of damage. I got DS almost exclusively so I could be a battlemage in a multiplayer game.

Woah so it drains more life upgraded? I didn't know that. Does it continue to drain a lot more for each level you upgrade it or just a little? And if so does it give a much higher boost too?

I am beyond 1337. Maybe soon I will play this game again. My DS flame is almost gone and it needs to be reignited. I'll probably be using uchi with power within and crystal magic weapon since I'm too lazy to do a bunch of files.

I liek... flaming... trolls

I'm not actually arguing "strategy is (not) metagame," I'm trying to figure out what you mean by that. Before now using metagame as an adjective was completely foreign to me. I'll admit I skimmed this topic the first time around. I have read it entirely now but I almost wish I hadn't. A bunch of details I was looking for have been filled in but I also saw almost twice as many blanks. If you just want to assert something I really don't care enough to contradict you. If you actually want some input from me though, it's going to have to be in chat at this point. The reason is every time I get to a part of your post I don't understand I am going to ask you what you to elaborate further. Normally this would go smoothly but there is so much in your posts I don't understand (such as why a strategy doesn't exist if it can be countered by the rule set of the game) that if I were to ask these questions in the forum it would drag out several days longer than my attention span for trivial topics can hold.