Crimson Fury Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) What do you guys think is the best one in LR? Overall they're definitely not top-tier weapons, but I used to get a lot of wins on Kai with a lightweight weilding a single SP, but I abused the hell outta a lot of people's lack of ability to target track too. Penguin Deus told me the other day that the SP is inferior to the double-barrel in most circumstances, I didn't know this.Opinions?! I know a few guys aside from me had a lot of luck with them back then(Bato and TM to name a few) Anybody got shotgun love in ACLR? And if so which ones? And what other underrated weapons have you used to pull some surprise wins? Edited July 5, 2011 by Crimson Fury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yeah dood my roommate did a test for that one day. His test was to fire the gun at a wall and at an AC a bunch of times (I forget how many times) from incremental distances of 50 starting at 0, record the damage done, solve for how many beads hit, and check the spreads on the wall. I want to say he even took pictures for the spreads. I know he wrote out all of his data. It was a very thorough test...and I think he skipped a day of work to do it. What a guy. Essentially, his results were: -The double-barrel almost always has a tighter spread, and since it has more beads-The only range SP will out-damage is at the most extreme ranges, where you can expect only one bead to hit from either After he did the test and showed me his results, I agreed with him to never use the SP again. There's just no reason. As for my take on shotguns: Shotguns aren't too good in LR, but they can definitely get you results. That's the beauty of LR. It has this unique quality in the AC series in that it's the only game where you can run an entire offense off your back or off your hands, and in some cases even off your core. This gives you a ton of leeway in using some more exotic choices when it comes to back-up weapons. As long as you don't use something completely meaningless (or worse) you can get away with lots of stuff. Also, shotguns still fuck shit up great when you're really close. If you're the type who can get into the pocket and stay put long enough to bust your load on their face enough times, you're definitely getting bang for your buck. All puns intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCC Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) People used SP back in the day when they didn't know any better, myself included. What it comes down to is, SP (6 bullet spread) does equal damage to 84S (8 bullet spread) and you only benefit from it at ranges where you would be better off using a rifle. Extra weight just bogs most builds down. I don't like 76S either since it's weaker with a lower attack power and 6 bullets per spread instead of 8. S2 is just the lefty version of 84S. I mainly do dual shotguns or p3+s2 anytime I do use them. OB mandatory. Sometimes I'll sneak 84S on quads. If it weighed around 360~ like p3 and r2 it'd probably see a lot more use. If the lefty was a WS lock it would be the bees knees too. Edited July 5, 2011 by LCC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Yah, I use 88S2 on my quad for a leftie gun. It's a lot more entertaining than running HP at least, though it's a lot less useful. Still good enough to work, though. I think S2 is easily best on left arm. Its spread is just tighter and the dumb thing weighs like 10. I definitely don't like the look of the double-barreled shotties, though. I like the 76S and SP for looks. SP is definitely my favorite shotty, though. If it just didn't weigh a fuckton I'd use it more often. Really, my only real beef with SP is the weight. Though I'm talking left hand guns. I don't use right hand shotguns too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fury Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I love to bust my load all over. Cores, arms, legs, all about the angles! Also, remember how badass slug guns were in AC2? I'd totally love if they were really good in LR. Total humiliation cannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuranga Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I fucking love my SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I thought the S2 wasn't the best lefty shotgun in LR. Whatever, I'll prolly use it more now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fury Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 S2 is pretty cool, can catch people off-guard with some nice surprise hits or just be used for general bulldogging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Plus it's WS, so I'll probably throw that in on my next bot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCC Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 If the lefty was a WS lock it would be the bees knees too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Well there goes that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fury Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Yeah, that lock type situation is pretty gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethos Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Yeah, it's all about s2 for me. I like shotguns. I used to rock the en shotgun back in nx/nb but it's not the same in lr. Overall though, I always liked the double barrel over the sp. I couldn't justify the added weight for the supposed stronger hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I wish they did a lefty version of the double-barrel right hand shotgun, that thing is just so sexy. They could have put that lighter higher attack heat version of it from SL on the left hand, that would have been dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fury Posted July 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Yeah that would have been nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) 84S is teh best. Kuroi Kenshin said he liked it better than the SP, because he said it had a tighter spread or something, so we both played each other with 84S and SP and came to the same conclusion. 84S worked better, not to mention that it's lighter. Edited July 8, 2011 by TMRaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuranga Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I also dig the leftie 3 shot one But ya.... fuck the whole Standard lock type BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fury Posted July 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I did pretty well with SP, remember our battles TM? Those were pretty fun. But yeah I should've been using the 84 in hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Ya I remember em. Came down to RM3 vs RM3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 How do the 84S and S2 stack against one another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 S2? You mean the left arm shotgun? 84S is a right arm shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirtless Crackhead Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Oh, what's the 3-shot lefty shotgun? I want Owen's opinion on lefty shotguns, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Oh the 76S, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Fury Posted July 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 @TM- Ya, we loved us some small missiles, I used RM a lot too though. Ehh leftie shotties were always a sore subject for me personally, WS would have made way more sense. I mean they're only useful at such close ranges that FROM could've justified the WS lock easily, if only to give players another decent alternative to the great leftie handguns on an AC that needs a lockbox buffer or general CQC gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Fuck lefty shotguns they serve no purpose. Well right hand shotguns as well, but less so for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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