Making ACs a Reality

[Shirtless Crackhead]

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[Draxus]

I wonder how long you guys take just looking up pics to use in your post.

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

I can't imagine any of us takes long at all doing that. At least the posters I know.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

Ya, it's pretty quick.

[BerserkFury]

Well gentlemen, I'm here to state that ACs, or biped suits with people in them WILL become a reality. There will be many practical uses for them. I could sit here ALLLL night typing them up buuut thats what your imaginations are for Anyhow, you guys are just a bunch of pessimists (though thats not your fault) but nonetheless, stay tuned and dont pass away over the next 20 years or so.

 

Cheers,

Dr. V.

[The Talentless]

I'm right and you're wrong and I don't even have to explain why I'm right cause that's how right I am. Fuck you guyssssssssss.

 

Sweet post, brah.

[BerserkFury]

http://i.imgur.com/Fze9uS5.jpg

 

The M1 Abrams uses Chobham armor, the same as the Challanger and most NATO main battle tanks. Dupleted Uranium is used for anti-tank munitions for the GAU-8 Avenger on the A-10 Warthog, and a couple other weapons platforms, not tank armor.

 

 

No, excuse ME while I laugh at you because M1A1 tanks received improved armor packages that incorporated depleted uranium (DU) components in their armor at the front of the turret and the front of the hull. Armor reinforced in this manner offers significantly increased resistance towards all types of anti-tank weaponry, but at the expense of adding considerable weight to the tank, as depleted uranium is 1.7 times more dense than lead.

Edited July 15, 2013 by BerserkFury

[Bakuhatsu Pengin]

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[Shirtless Crackhead]

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[Mom]

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[Shirtless Crackhead]

http://i.imgur.com/MXiAEac.gif

 

This one has some relevance to this thread.

[BerserkFury]

http://i.imgur.com/MXiAEac.gif

 

This one has some relevance to this thread.

 

At least I can model the rotation about the center of mass of that axe... Can you do that bro? with the alphas and the omegas and the thetas and the parallel axis theorem and all?? Sure, you might know your facts about military tech and your oh so heavenly RPGs but thats just regurgitation. Your opinion on this matter is as good as the people who wrote up the article you got your facts from. Come talk to me about making a machine walk on two legs when you actually know the physics behind it. I dont need you trying to school me on shit I already know. I recognize the flaws of a bipedal system but I'vee also envisioned ways to get around those flaws. And, sure, this is a forum so I cant avoid the criticism, but I just want you to know that you've shown nothing but narrow mindedness through out the entire debate. Unlike you, I've taken into account all of the factors that have been brought up and HAVE invested time into thinking up solutions. Oh, and I take this as seriously as I do because I'm a passionate individual and nothing seeps through me. Go ahead and joke all you want but I can almost guarantee based, simply on the number of posts that you've accumulated on this website, that you dont spend hours upon hours hunched over your desk reading and doing physics and math or in university labs experimenting like I do, which implies that your opinion on the matter truly is second rate.

[Bakuhatsu Pengin]

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[Shirtless Crackhead]

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Tell me more about how giant walking robots are going to be a technological advancement in an age of cheap unmanned aerial drones equipped with weapons that can defeat any sensible mobile armor; and even if there was something with enough armor to absorb those hits, they'd simply make a better projectile.

 

I want to know.

[SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD]

Raor you might want to ease back. This dude sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I mean, he knows the alphas, gammas, and omegas of throwing an axe. It's not hard to believe that he knows how to make an AC practical.

[Mom]

Pacific Rim.

[Shirtless Crackhead]

When we have giant inter-dimensional ammonia based lifeforms, they'd just fall over.

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

Raor you might want to ease back. This dude sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I mean, he knows the alphas, gammas, and omegas of throwing an axe. It's not hard to believe that he knows how to make an AC practical.

 

We really out here my nigga, like really out here

 

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[Shirtless Crackhead]

http://i.imgur.com/5bCXu3j.jpg

[YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR]

he's right

 

I can do all that shit he said too so I know he's 100% right

 

you don't know omega, son

 

you not fuckin with rocket propelled axes bruh!!!!

[Crimson Fury]

Can my mech have a buster cannon? Also, can I scream BUSTAA WUUULFF when its fired?

[KORTOKtheSTRONG]

wuuurfff*

[Crimson Fury]

wuuurfff*

Oops, sorry my engrish is rusty.

[Malleolus]

Berserk, 1: I created this account to say that you are being an a$$.

2: I to believe that mechs are not only feasible, but they are also viable in the combat theater. Now, hear me out if you don't mind.

 

First off, let me cover design. The most obvious choice is hydraulic actuation. With a little ingenuity it isn't hard to at least rough out locomotion with compliance incorporated nor is it hard to cushion the major joints. A simple encased ball joint with a constant feed of hydraulic fluid would decrease friction exponentially and help to cushion impacts in the knees. Not to mention compliance devices incorporated into the lower leg and feet. Modified accumulators in conjunction with segmented tibia counterpart is a simple compliance device that is easily incorporated into design. Proper use of maraging alloys in crucial junctions can help as well. There truly is no feasible way to pilot one of these unless using a haptic feedback human machine interface, allowing the pilot to literally make the balancing corrections in real time using the pilots natural gyroscopic sense (yes like Pacific Rim, minus the consciousness meshing, but I was designing this system well before I had even heard of the movie). With antagonistic setup of actuators, you can greatly reduce the reservoir requirement, or with more advanced hydraulic circuits perform similar to power by wire design.

 

Armor/Armaments: armor would, obviously, be of paramount importance. But, remember, even anti-armor munitions are highly dependent on direct angles of impact to perform properly, if at all. What you can do in this template (it also conserves weight) is use continuously sloping armor, greatly increasing chances of partial and full deflections or refraction of DU/tungsten penetrators and HEAT munitions. Chobham armor can be of even greater effect here. Furthermore, you can readily mount area denial munitions to defeat man portable anti-armor equipment like they are using on that self propelled howitzer you guys keep mentioning. Armaments couldn't justify this template of a weapons platform more, you can take any piece of battlefield artillery, tear down to barrel, firing mechanism, magazine, and sights and hand it off to a mech. With the aforementioned piloting scheme, literally you have a multi-role weapons platform. The problem with tanks, howitzers, etc. is that they can only perform the explicit function they are designed for. In this setup, you rely on the pilot with advanced targeting assistance. For years battlefield artillery has been used with analog aiming and firing mechanisms to great effect, only recently have fully computer automation come into play and the computer does nothing more than perform the actions of the firing crews it replaced.

 

Powerplant: reaching into the little black bag of classified technology, a micro-supercritical water turbine reactor can theoretically put out more than enough power, though heat dissipation is going to be hard to conceal. But it would mean protracted engagements wouldn't be of hindrance, so long as ammunition was readily available.

 

Speed would be limited, yes. My most effective hydraulic based designs can only get strides of 5 second intervals if having to use full contractions (but why the hell would you sprint in the first place?!?) But sustained speeds of 30 mph isn't hard. The big boon here is agility. With bipedal designs, anything of appropriate size becomes cover. You can hide behind any building of x stories, expose yourself long enough to engage, then drop back behind cover. No tank can do that effectively. You wouldn't even have to fully dedicate like a tank would, simply peeping around the corner is an option.

 

I'm no idiot, there are hurtles to the endeavor but flight was considered not only SciFi, but pointless to even pursue with the technology that was present when it was finally invented. Engineers, scientists, and most everyone else believed it fallacy to pursue because of the amount of weight in fuel you would have to carry to attempt any prolonged flights, not to mention design specs that seemed insurmountable at the time. Still, a few advocates worked for years on it till they proved that not only was it possible, it was viable AND performed better than anticipated. Since then it has become the apex means of civil and commercial mass transportation, edging out all other means of mass transit in every field save the most massive payloads that at this time can only be transported via freight, and were still working on minimizing that. Much less getting into space, orbit and beyond. Using electricity as the primary mover in thrust baffles people now, but not only is it possible, it's being used to keep modern satellites in geosynchronous orbit. Literally nothing more than a bunch of sub-atomic particles. We are a hard-headed species, hard to persuade without direct physical proof of viability. But, we have to mental capacity to follow through no matter what the odds seem like. Time and time again, we have proven that science fiction is usually prelude to science fact, given time and dedication.

[Queen Drac Wraith]

Berserk, 1: I created this account to say that you are being an a$$.

2: I to believe that mechs are not only feasible, but they are also viable in the combat theater. Now, hear me out if you don't mind.

 

First off, let me cover design. The most obvious choice is hydraulic actuation. With a little ingenuity it isn't hard to at least rough out locomotion with compliance incorporated nor is it hard to cushion the major joints. A simple encased ball joint with a constant feed of hydraulic fluid would decrease friction exponentially and help to cushion impacts in the knees. Not to mention compliance devices incorporated into the lower leg and feet. Modified accumulators in conjunction with segmented tibia counterpart is a simple compliance device that is easily incorporated into design. Proper use of maraging alloys in crucial junctions can help as well. There truly is no feasible way to pilot one of these unless using a haptic feedback human machine interface, allowing the pilot to literally make the balancing corrections in real time using the pilots natural gyroscopic sense (yes like Pacific Rim, minus the consciousness meshing, but I was designing this system well before I had even heard of the movie). With antagonistic setup of actuators, you can greatly reduce the reservoir requirement, or with more advanced hydraulic circuits perform similar to power by wire design.

 

Armor/Armaments: armor would, obviously, be of paramount importance. But, remember, even anti-armor munitions are highly dependent on direct angles of impact to perform properly, if at all. What you can do in this template (it also conserves weight) is use continuously sloping armor, greatly increasing chances of partial and full deflections or refraction of DU/tungsten penetrators and HEAT munitions. Chobham armor can be of even greater effect here. Furthermore, you can readily mount area denial munitions to defeat man portable anti-armor equipment like they are using on that self propelled howitzer you guys keep mentioning. Armaments couldn't justify this template of a weapons platform more, you can take any piece of battlefield artillery, tear down to barrel, firing mechanism, magazine, and sights and hand it off to a mech. With the aforementioned piloting scheme, literally you have a multi-role weapons platform. The problem with tanks, howitzers, etc. is that they can only perform the explicit function they are designed for. In this setup, you rely on the pilot with advanced targeting assistance. For years battlefield artillery has been used with analog aiming and firing mechanisms to great effect, only recently have fully computer automation come into play and the computer does nothing more than perform the actions of the firing crews it replaced.

 

Powerplant: reaching into the little black bag of classified technology, a micro-supercritical water turbine reactor can theoretically put out more than enough power, though heat dissipation is going to be hard to conceal. But it would mean protracted engagements wouldn't be of hindrance, so long as ammunition was readily available.

 

Speed would be limited, yes. My most effective hydraulic based designs can only get strides of 5 second intervals if having to use full contractions (but why the hell would you sprint in the first place?!?) But sustained speeds of 30 mph isn't hard. The big boon here is agility. With bipedal designs, anything of appropriate size becomes cover. You can hide behind any building of x stories, expose yourself long enough to engage, then drop back behind cover. No tank can do that effectively. You wouldn't even have to fully dedicate like a tank would, simply peeping around the corner is an option.

 

I'm no idiot, there are hurtles to the endeavor but flight was considered not only SciFi, but pointless to even pursue with the technology that was present when it was finally invented. Engineers, scientists, and most everyone else believed it fallacy to pursue because of the amount of weight in fuel you would have to carry to attempt any prolonged flights, not to mention design specs that seemed insurmountable at the time. Still, a few advocates worked for years on it till they proved that not only was it possible, it was viable AND performed better than anticipated. Since then it has become the apex means of civil and commercial mass transportation, edging out all other means of mass transit in every field save the most massive payloads that at this time can only be transported via freight, and were still working on minimizing that. Much less getting into space, orbit and beyond. Using electricity as the primary mover in thrust baffles people now, but not only is it possible, it's being used to keep modern satellites in geosynchronous orbit. Literally nothing more than a bunch of sub-atomic particles. We are a hard-headed species, hard to persuade without direct physical proof of viability. But, we have to mental capacity to follow through no matter what the odds seem like. Time and time again, we have proven that science fiction is usually prelude to science fact, given time and dedication.

Is it just me or is this thread going to have an actual non-hate based discussion about this topic?