Hollywood Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 AC Name: Barghest AC Designation: High Aggresion Pistoleer Core Frame:Head | Core | Arms | LegsEYE3 | C75U2 | LEMUR | LH96FA 0/0/8/2/0 | 0/0/9/1/0 | 4/2/0/4/0 | 0/0/0/10/0 Internal Systems: Booster | FCS | Generator | RadiatorGULL | LIMPET | LOTUS | ANANDA 0/0/8/2 | N/A | 0/10/0 | 0/0/10 Weapons and Armaments:Inside | Extension | R Back | L BackURCHIN | N/A | N/A | N/A R Arm | L Arm | R Hanger | L HangerGHOST2 | HP | 69H | WRAITH Optional Parts:AMINO | ES | SS | L+ | CODON | R+ | MARISHI Frame Color:R/G/BBase: 80/20/10Aid: 120/0/0Optional: 80/80/90Detail: 70/130/40Joint: 80/80/90 Weapons Color:All Black AP: 9015Weight: 7344En Supply: 3558MBS: 435Turning speed: 1183Stability: 10661Cooling/F. Cooling: 15608/17982Defense: Shell/En: 2032/1900 Description: The easiest description that can be given to this AC is a High Aggresion Pistoleer. It has High AP, High defense, High stability. It's intended for getting up into your opponents face and staying there while you stun lock your opponent into submission and strip their AP away. This AC seems like a Heavyweight from looking at it but it is in fact on the lighter end of the MW spectrum. I have been working on this design for almost a week tweaking it here or there to try and get the most out of it defense wise but I need input from you guys here to make it better, if that can be done. Tactics: As this starts out at a speed of about 435 kph, it should be easy enough to get up into your opponent's face and lay into them with Ghost2/HP/Urchin combo, and strip away their AP. Known Issues: Defenses are somewhat unbalanced. This AC will have a bit of a time dealing with a mid to long range build if your opponent is playing such an AC. Notes: I would like to keep the AC as close to it's intended purpose as possible, so please keep that in mind when you make any suggestions on possible changes to the frame or weapons. The 69H/Wraith in the hangers are there if your targeting sucks balls. Limpet is being used as a personal preference by me, but F73H will do just as nicely on here. I have no picture for this as I loaned my camera to my girlfriend, so if it's possible I would like to make a request of TM outside of his topic to provide a high quality picture of this bot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Dragon XXII Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 why sacrifice so much firepower for endurance? have you tried dual HP or dual H2 with GAEA core? gives you virtually unlimited ammo, plus it doesn't mess up its original stats so bad [aside from EN Drain and Overall Weight], allows you to deal with mid-range AC's and grants you more OP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 H2 sucks to be blunt, and i haven't sacrificed any firepower at all for endurance. Firepower isn't something that the stats tell very well. Using U2 gives me good heat resistance second only to UA. i have a low cal value gen, higher than normal cooling, really good stability, 9000+ AP, really good defense ( if a little unbalanced ), 435 kph MBS, weapons that can stun lock an opponent and strip away AP at the same time. You'd be surprised at what a handgun wielding AC can do to other types. 9 times out of 10 i don't even get around to using the hangered weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Dragon XXII Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) wait a minute... isn't that H3 banned? or maybe you're applying RR rules where it is a Conditional? of course that would stunlock... or genbust lock 'em. How good are your player opponents btw? I'm sure they don't suck like does... there's nothing really wrong with the frame and stats... in fact, it's kinda too Cold for GULL. I'm just a little concerned about its weird form of firepower, and its win rate that you may be pointing out as on the high side. Edited January 24, 2011 by Dark Dragon XXII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If that's an H3, endurance won't be an issue. H3 shits all over the game. Sorry LH but I don't have much to say on a bot running H3. The frame looks neat, anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Dragon XXII Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If that's an H3, endurance won't be an issue. H3 shits all over the game. Sorry LH but I don't have much to say on a bot running H3. The frame looks neat, anyways.yeah, I agree on this... just have to wait for a few answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator98 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If my memory's correct... Isn't GHOST2 that MG-like Handgun with special lock-on? Anyways, I hope your enemy ain't these shell defense whores...Ever thought of putting OB on that thing to compensate the low speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 For those who must obey the bans, HP has replaced H3. This simply means that you will run out of ammo sooner on the left and be forced to go to the hangered weapon on that side. But as HP has near rifle like attack power then it means verry little. Yes Term it does have a special lock, but with the WS lock weapon on the left it makes little difference. Limpet is ideal IMO for something running close range weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 try this,R Arm | L Arm | R Hanger | L HangerFINGER | SYLPH | WRAITH | WH69H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ever thought of putting OB on that thing to compensate the low speed? 435 actually isn't that slow for an AC with such a buff frame, particularly if the AC plays defensive. I personally would have added harpy/rm2 or mv/rm1 for some poking ability and/or quick drops though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taurus Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) 435 actually isn't that slow for an AC with such a buff framefor my personal about HW designs, just 400 that would would be fast enough. Edited January 25, 2011 by Tarstrudelvick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 This design is more or less a lightweight. It weighs less than my staple RJ, which is an S2, /UL, XS, 84M frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) I'll go back and see what i can do to add some poking weapons to this AC. My only issues is i don't want to make it too slow for it's weight class. The whole point of this AC is to be a hadngun user so adding mg's is out of the question but thanks for the suggestion anyway. Edited January 25, 2011 by Hollywood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Possibly U4 with either macaque or 72f. I should give you about same ap with less defense, but near 500 less weight. That would free up room for a poker. But as I said earlier, a spam and drop option like harpy/rm2 would most likely be better. It'll give you some early ap damage, and then you can work the handguns the rest of the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Yeah I'm with Owen. A backmount of some kind to get some early AP damage would go a long way. oc15+rm2 ftw! Lack of gaea really messes things up here, too. My first thought was that gaea would be pretty necessary. If it were me, I'd go gaea, oc15+rm2, and pray I have AP lead by the end. That or u4, o15+rm2, and ghost2+hp w/ 69h x2 hanger'd. I don't know if you remember that FT for LR we did way back, the one with the huge amounts of shit talking? Well as you might recall, the winner was a pistol boy. He won almost every single match of his by time. The pistols simply weren't enough to kill anything. My general point is there's a precedent for this being unable to kill anything. Ghost2 is also notoriously unreliable as a main gun. It's a fantastic weapon, don't get me wrong, but it's most suited as a support weapon. Edited January 25, 2011 by Colon Mokto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 before the change the H3 was the main attack weapon while the Ghost2 was there to back it up. the only thing is that ghost can be hangered while ghost 2 can't if i recall right. I added the harpy and rm2 last night but have yet to do a full test with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Dragon XXII Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 gaea+g2+hp with hpy2+rm2... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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