Mom Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 No they give you the option to summon the NPC. I'm sure you already know this but all enemies-- including bosses-- get more hp the more summons you have, putting forth some consequence for summoning people. So no, you don't have to rely on them. For instance I personally do not like the Gargoyles with summons because without summons you can kill each gargoyle pretty fast. How were you reacting to The Belfry Gargoyles and then Smough and Ornstein in Dark Souls 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'm reacting that they were recycled for dark souls 2 which was a pretty lazy move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'm ok with the belfry gargoyles recycled in dark souls 2 because it still makes some sense. Ornstein recycled in to Dark Souls 2 was pretty lame-- especially because he's pretty lame without his mash bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I am more ok with gargoyles than Ornstein, I just don't know what the hell he's doing there, specially with the whole being dead thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I didn't mind the ornstein re-use because I think it was a concious decision to fuck with people's heads hexes are hands down the best magic type in PvP in PvE its lightning and hex I get why he'd say that about lightning tho in PvE the lightning bolt spells are wild strong cuz casting speeds aren't an issue (and they all have really bad casting speed) dark and lightning also have the added bonus of access to great magic barrier which is big time as well I wouldn't call dood retarded tbh I think you both made valid points if that makes sense? I just don't necessarily agree oh I also really really like the NPCs in this game, easily my faves overall, but that's like a big selling point for me in games: a strong cast, even if they arent talked about much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talentless Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 "Dude, what? It's Ornstein! That's pretty cool. I had no idea he was in the game."That was my reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 yeah that was mine then I started wondering why he showed, like if the games were tied, then I realized they aren't really and he's just a red herring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talentless Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Oh man, Vaati would beg to differ! He's got some great lore vid cookin' up that's going to explain all the little nooks and crannies about the story you definitely missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) But because of him the dragonrider has no dragon to ride. Saying lightning is only type of magic to use is pretty retarded. I been on the receiving end of too much hexes. Edited May 10, 2014 by POSTER X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) thats the thing I've done a ton of thinking about the story hahahaha I mean ya I mighta missed things but me believing they aren't directly related is for very specific reasons, a lot of it being what u learn in the last phases of the story Edited May 10, 2014 by YOUNG CALIGULA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/06/understanding-the-lore-of-dark-souls-2 This article is a pretty fun read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 i love storytelling so that sort of thing I eat up oh, I meant to attach that to end of my last post, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talentless Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I didn't pay attention to the story at all. I killed Sinner and had no idea he/she was significant. Next thing I know I'm talking to a dragon for whatever reason and then I beat the game.That about covers it for the memorable bits as far as story goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Yea it's easy to do that in souls series. In Dark Souls 1 all I remember is I was supposed to ring two bells then next thing I know I'm talking to a big titted bitch and then next thing I know I'm talking to a serpent who pops out of the ground and then I fall in and go kill a guy who's been kept up down there for a while. In Demon's Souls, man I don't even know wtf I was doing I just wanted to do levels. Hell if I knew what that ending was about too. In all 3 games of the souls series you have to go around talking to NPCs and exhaust all their dialogue, then read all the item descriptions, then piece a lot of things together to get an elementary understanding of the backstory that surrounds that game's world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 shut up dmx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Actually at the start at the game I went to forest of giants, that led to lost sinner, killed lost sinner, wondered why I wasn't told I needed great souls, then I found my way to huntsman, and after killing old king someone told me Ornstein was in there and I went to heide's and I was like "It's probably just a dude who looks like Ornstein or just uses the same weapon" to my surprise it was the same guy. Moving on after knowing I needed great souls, I just wandered around until I found some, I didn't know where the castle or where the shrine of winter was so I just came across that by accident again, after that it's pretty much smooth sailing with the king's ring deal until I got giant's kinship, I read the description for the item so I knew what to do with it, I just don't know why something like that unlocks the final boss out of nowhere. I don't know, it was hard for me to enjoy the game, that's all, maybe my biggest problem with it is how they nerfed healing items in an attempt to create a false sense of difficulty, when chugging down 2 flasks makes your healing fast enough to compensate. And for the NPC thing, well yeah, we had to exhaust dialogue, thing is in here you're almost forced to do so because they won't even sell things to you if you don't, which bugged me a bit, but in the end it doesn't matter, I always exhaust dialogue anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Doesn't Emerald Herald tell you to seek great souls the very first time you meet her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 She just doesn't specify whose souls or where to go, but yes, I just don't think she's very good at giving instructions, what with the whole talking as little as possible thing she's got going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 shut up dmx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 "You are being ignored by user Top Notch Pilot" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talentless Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I don't know, it was hard for me to enjoy the game, that's all, maybe my biggest problem with it is how they nerfed healing items in an attempt to create a false sense of difficulty, when chugging down 2 flasks makes your healing fast enough to compensate. This should not be an issue. I seriously can't believe I just read this as a complaint. Don't get hit, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I think handicapping the player to create a sense of difficulty is an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 i think youre a handicapped person who created a sense of issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNG MASTERLESS GLENCOUR Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I actually liked the estus change pve wise I hate the fact that its near instant in the arena if ur agi is high enough tho it should be turned off in the arena, especially considering they're all phantoms in there and phantoms can't use them normally anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mom Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I wish healing of any kind was turned off in arena and redstone/dragonstone duels, while healing would be allowed by all parties during invasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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