SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 http://i51.tinypic.com/2n8tver.jpg A day in the life of Charlie Sheen. My Loki! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liarbird Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Not a cloakie loki? :\ hmmm... I hope you're using a decent fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renketsu0 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 It's for PvE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 The fit's on the right side, homie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liarbird Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 yeah I know that. I just hope you're never caught by a piwate with that fit: it may get you buggered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 90, I know you refit the ship already and haven't posted the new one, but the new one is still funky. You're using the artillery subsystem instead of the autocannon subsystem... but you're using ACs. Also, you don't really need that many TEs. If you really want range, tho, you can use 2x TE and 1x Barrage M. That'll net you something wild like 40km falloff or some shit. Really, though, you can probably pull off just 1x TE and be fine. 2x Gyro, 1x or 2x TE (whichever you feel you need), 1x DC and then other junk. I saw you fixed most of it, though. You may want to ask Art for some good Loki fits, though. PS: hi +50% Damage, +50% Optimal, +37.5% Tracking = Artillery+37.5% Rate of Fire, +50% Falloff = Auto-Cannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liarbird Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 tracking enhancers are best for anti-frigate warfare. I'm with Neej here, trade one for a Gyro II and there's a good balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 New fit.ACs Yeah, I'd changed a few things from the last fit I linked you in EVE. I don't have the money for another sub so we'll have to mission a bit before I can switch offensive subsystems. I blew all my money on frivolities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Ok, so I wanted to help you kinda clean your fit up a bit without actually changing your fitting too much in concept. I also wanted to make a sorta tight fit, so you'd be somewhat maxing what you got. I spent about 30 minutes in EFT and came up with a pretty decent support fit for when you mission with people, but it's definitely not the best fit possible. The +25% shield resistances subsystem is actually pretty epic, but I stuck to the -25% signature radius subsystem instead since it seemed like you wanted that one. It's also more work to get a tight fit with that shield one, so I figure this'll be easiest. It looks like you want to run ACs, a hybrid shield tank (hardeners + passive regen), low signature radius, afterburner, and relatively long range with good damage. I'm not going to judge. I'm just going to work with it. I went with that, anyway. Idk if that's actually what you wanted, but that's what I designed around in EFT. I focused a bit more on the tank than the damage, though. I also used T2 rigs, feel free to use T1 instead. I kept Barrage M on the ammo since you were using Barrage M in your pic, too. http://revolution.armoredcoreuniverse.net/EVE/Fittings/Unique%20Fittings/Bladecatcher.jpg [Loki, Bladecatcher]Damage Control IIGyrostabilizer IIGyrostabilizer IITracking Enhancer IITracking Enhancer II 10MN Afterburner IILarge Shield Extender IILarge Shield Extender IIInvulnerability Field IIInvulnerability Field II 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Core Defence Field Extender IIMedium Core Defence Field Extender IIMedium Core Defence Field Extender II Loki Defensive - Amplification NodeLoki Electronics - Tactical Targeting NetworkLoki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor ReservoirLoki Offensive - Projectile Scoping ArrayLoki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Hobgoblin II x5Warrior II x5 It's a super tight fit, so you might not be able to equip it all yet. If so, you may want to drop the LSE2s for other junk until you can. You could try m4 LSEs or even MSE2s instead. Your call. I think you should be able to pull this fit off, though. At worst you might have to train some skills for a week or buy some implants for fitting, but that should be it. Your turrets don't have magical tracking under five kilometers, so you'll want drones that can eat frigates alive. You also have a super fast lock-on time, along with a super fast reload rate. You should be able to pop frigates long before they get to you, but keep the light drones anyway. Not forgetting that ridiculous 44km falloff. Even at your max lock-on range you still do about 100 dps. I wouldn't do it, though. That Barrage M ammo isn't exactly cheap. Try to shoot around 25km or closer so you can maintain 300+ dps. The passive tank regen on this boat is actually pretty poor, even after those relatively huge resists. Still not bad, though. The advantage of the setup is the large ass buffer in shields. 17,000 shield HP is more than enough to keep you alive if anything goes wrong in a mission. Just look at those eHP scores in the description. That's also why I used the extender rigs insead of the purger rigs. You get more hp/s regen from the purger rigs, but you only have like 9,000 shield HP that way. That extra 8,000 shield HP will probably come in more handy in a hybrid tank setup than the hp/s regen will. You can fly around at roughly 750m/s with a sig radius of 150m, so you should be easily able to kite most things. You're also completely cap stable. In fact, you're so cap stable that you'd be somewhat hard to neut for NPCs. Pure accident, but still helpful. This way you get that hybrid tank you wanted. It's just a hybrid of speed, signature radius, high shield hp, high resists, and some hp/s regen. You can't solo every L4 in this though. It's not magic. You'd have to change the fit around a good bit to do that. Also, this is what it looks like with the subsystems in the fit I'm talking about. http://revolution.armoredcoreuniverse.net/EVE/Screenshots/Bladecatcher%20-%20Left%20Side.jpg http://revolution.armoredcoreuniverse.net/EVE/Screenshots/Bladecatcher%20-%20Right%20Side.jpg Hope you like it! =3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I'd be willing to go to the shield subsystem if you think it'd be a better fit than sig radius. I still have the subsystem so it's not a big deal to switch. Also, I don't have enough POW or CPU to fit that. I'm close on CPU but POW is coming up pretty short. Of course, EFT has lied to me before when it comes to importing my character so I'll have to check again in-game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renketsu0 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) Loki's tank can get sooooo big!http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7525/luckyloki.jpg Willing to bet there's some kinda way to get a similar dps tank with 6 turrets. Edited May 31, 2011 by renketsu0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Adaptive Shields is harder to work with on slots, though. It's definitely better. It even gives you +50 CPU to work with, which makes fitting easier. You lose a mid or low slot for it, though. I don't remember which, and you gain a high slot. If you use Adaptive + Augmented Capacitor + Projectile Scoping you can run 6x turrets, 25m3 drone bw, and a missile launcher. Fitting it that way would call for a different module fit too, though. I would just stick to the sig radius one. Having a signature radius of 150 is pretty good. Especially for that setup I posted. It's all made to fit together and stuff, haha. Btw, since you're playing a more defensive build in that fitting Ren, you'd probably want to use the Dissolution Sequencer. It's a super powered anti-ECM subsystem. Yah, Loki tank can get pretty huge. More-so when compared to its sig radius, which also strongly affects tanks. Also, the only reason you have to get closer with your tank Loki fit is because you're not using Barrage M. 90 was using Barrage M, which takes the falloff from 30km to 44km. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renketsu0 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 I used Phased Plasma because Barrage would drop the DPS by a lot too. But this is nowhere near the way I'd fit my Loki. I don't want to use my Loki for PvE in the first place. That was just a little laugh at how it can get such a ridiculous tank with under 150 sig radius. My fit had 6 turrets, double web, warp disrupter and a neut on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I didn't realize until I started looking at it but that is a startlingly expensive fit. Those T2 rigs are 100M ISK apiece. Add to that the cost of buying tac target sub. I'm going to be in hock for a while. P.S.- Latest patch makes all my ships fly backwards. Werd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 HAHAHA, OH FUCK! Your ships are flying backwards too! So good. Yah, fuck the t2 rigs. Those are mostly for show, really. Sell your old unused subsystems, bud. Just underprice them a bit and they'll go super fast. No reason to keep those subsystems right now. You need time to get used to a single Loki fit first, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUMERIAN BLOOD GOD Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 http://i55.tinypic.com/11cctuc.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/de0gnt.jpg That extra mid slot is helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Nice generator recharge there. Hahaha. =3 We should totally start to mission together sometime more often now that school is basically ending for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 at my current skill level, this is what i can do with my thorax (after getting ym T2 blasters)http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/INSANE-O-FLEX/Thorax-NewSetup1-1.jpg before that, i had one less tracking enhancer, but i also had an 800mm armor plate and a trimark armor pump. is it a good idea to trade neutrons for 3k armor hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Not on a PvP Thorax, no. PvP Thorax needs enough HP to survive getting shot once while it closes with a massive sig radius MWD. Generally on the PvP build you want 1x 800mm plate if possible, Ions, and 1-2 Trimarks w/1 exp res pump or w/e. This is probably for PvE, though. If it's for PvE you can just go all out damage, yah. Neutron II x5 + 3x Magstab + 2x TE + MWD + Web + Cap Recharger + PG Rigs/Damage Rigs. It's important to keep in mind, though, that you could always potentially equip a metastasis adjuster and collision accelerator while using Ions and get almost Neutron level damage with Electron level tracking. Just in case that way uses less PG than this way. Idk if you get my drift or not, but sometimes you can save space using smaller weapons with the right rig buffing instead of having to go for PG/CPU saving rigs to equip bigger weaps. Sometimes the bigger weaps are better, tho. Honestly, tho. It's fine for PvE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 so many PG rigsssss fuckin gallente ships need a PG buff, or at least some do also, when do we start doin interesting stuff, we've been doin the same shit over and over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 i only need the pg rigs because i still have to train my weapons upgrades and other various pg skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harakiri Tiger Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 You can do interesting stuff whenever. If it's interesting it should be easy to get people to stop doing the same thing over and over and do it instead. Just tell people like 90/noob what you want to do here in the thread and set up a time and you can do it. If it's PvP you want you'll have to wait a bit longer. I plan on starting up some PvP practice later on this month, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 we should all pvp in starter class ships with T2 small turrets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artdeux Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Sounds... familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuhatsu Pengin Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 holy crap we definitely need to do this sometime soonwe need like 50 more people though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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