sniper Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 ....You mean this whole time there was a way for me to take territory without waiting hours to get in a domination match? *shoots self* Actually I think Niji said this but I didn't understand what it ment. *shoots self again* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodlyPerfection Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Actually you may not be able to take the territory right away... I re-read the translation and it says you lose it at the end of the season if the durability is 0. Not sure who gets it at that point. http://www.armoredcore.net/players/acv/online_manual/worldmenu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Walker Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 That "wager points" is the team ranking pointing in a certain territory, you'll notice that in places you haven't played much in, you're not in the rankings but have points there. In a sense dominion matches are like pink slips in races, you bet points and winner takes all which in most cases nets you enough points to get into the ranks ( own a territory ) or drop out by losing. Regular intrusions is like the slow and steady ladder climb but eventually you'll run into the lowest ranker team to take their spot. That being said, that is why the top ranker team's logo shows up in a certain territory; they's accumulated a lot of points. Through non-stop battling of course, hahah. Also, there is a periodic server reset/refresh that I was hoping for to neuteralize all territories like how it was in AC4/4A's ranked matches. So don't give up yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shirt (Grayscale) Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Actually you may not be able to take the territory right away... I re-read the translation and it says you lose it at the end of the season if the durability is 0. Not sure who gets it at that point. http://www.armoredco...anual/worldmenu It seems that they've changed it from the trial version. The territory was removed when I had my ass handed by two ACs during the demo. I wonder how long it'd take until the server resets. Edited February 20, 2012 by Red Shirt (Grayscale) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodlyPerfection Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 It seems that they've changed it from the trial version. The territory was removed when I had my ass handed by two ACs during the demo. I wonder how long it'd take until the server resets.Yeah that should happen in a dominion match. I'm talking about regular intrusion matches not dominion matches. If you lose in a dominion match you will lose your territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liarbird Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I wish I didnt drop in matches with more than 4 other players, it gets frustrating. Ended up in a defense mission where one invader was vs four of us. he got royally trashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerserkFury Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 haha why would anyone invade alone?.. Anyhow, here's a review I saw on facebook today from ACO. Seems like this game is making a really good impression. http://www.mechadamashii.com/reviews/reviews-armored-core-v-910/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 haha why would anyone invade alone?.. Anyhow, here's a review I saw on facebook today from ACO. Seems like this game is making a really good impression. http://www.mechadama...red-core-v-910/ Some territories are even held by one AC, that's how I got a territory by getting lucky and doing a dominion battle with only 1 AC opponent, however I lost it 3 days ago to a team filled with dual sawa ACs. I've also been in 5 emergency situations where I've only faced 1 AC vs 3 mercs and myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerserkFury Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 you know what really has me pumped about ACV? that we wont only be customizing our ACs anymore, but our teams as well. I cant wait to see the many different combinations of specialized ACs that teams will have or specific team colors for all their ACs. All that sort of cool stuff people are gonne come up with to make their teams as personal and unique as possible. I CANT WAIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Walker Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I was saying it'll be a while before players break off the mentality of being a "one man army" and "I can beat anyone!" Before proper teams with specialized units ( dedicated sniper, recon, heavy... Etc ) start forming. The hardest unit to find being the Operator, sure some will try it for fun or because of circumstances but a dedicated operator will be very rare. Of course I'm sure there will be back up operators to let the original one have fun shooting stuff but I'm not too optimistic about the AC players sharing the same "team-work" idea. But! It's going to be loads of fun to teach those lonewolf pro-wannabes what tactical team play is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snotes Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Great point, Moon Walker. I bet participating in a match with a team like that would be exhilarating! I think what you're describing are the show-boaters, and I dislike them, too. However, I can really respect some of the less douche-y lone wolves out there. Okay guys, here's a question I have not been able to answer through lurking harder, better, faster, or stronger. It's for all of you who imported: Does Team Level raise as quickly as it did in the demo? And am I correct in assuming that all parts become available by the time you reach Team Level 50? My hope is to have my build a little more optimized by the time I go competitive, and I don't mind grinding story missions until I unlock my Pile Bunkers at Level 48. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodlyPerfection Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I was saying it'll be a while before players break off the mentality of being a "one man army" and "I can beat anyone!" Before proper teams with specialized units ( dedicated sniper, recon, heavy... Etc ) start forming. The hardest unit to find being the Operator, sure some will try it for fun or because of circumstances but a dedicated operator will be very rare. Of course I'm sure there will be back up operators to let the original one have fun shooting stuff but I'm not too optimistic about the AC players sharing the same "team-work" idea. But! It's going to be loads of fun to teach those lonewolf pro-wannabes what tactical team play is all about. That's part of the reason why I'm excited to jump into the 360 scene as a lot of groups of friends already understand the importance of teamwork. The group I plan on playing with are big on the team aspect of things and several are actually extremely excited to learn to be a great operator. I'm glad we won't have too much of a shortage. I got some great operator practice in the demo, but it was no where near enough. I've learned a couple new tricks while watching videos and working on the spreadsheet has gotten me familiar with a lot of the weapons. I'm hoping to have a good majority of the weapons memorized by the time the game launches. Also found out that you can do a sort of in-depth scan on your opponents while in operator mode. It then gives you the same energy bar underneath them as your teammates do and you also get full stats on how much ammo they have remaining in each gun and how many recon units they have and what not. It is amazing how much information you get and weeding all that down and figuring out what to relay to your team is going to be a skill that will only truly grow with experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Acid Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) hm is there a way to try out operator mode in the demo? >_< im curious to know if itd be easy for me Edited February 21, 2012 by Silver Acid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aokiryu89 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 hm is there a way to try out operator mode in the demo? >_< im curious to know if itd be easy for me You need real players to give orders and advice too, so no. I'm all for playing operator on the PS3 side. As a matter of fact, my brother who has always been the better frame designer is really excited about joining in as well as an operator (Though he's currently in college and I still don't have my own system). I'm thinking about getting a new bluetooth headset as well, I don't know how well the ones I have here are up to the task of picking up my freaking voice. Also looking into getting more attention to the 360 side since an old college friend is an avid gamer who was pretty excited when I showed him the gameplay vids at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniper Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) YES! Finally got a second gold plate for my team. Also if anyone has encountered the big super turrets yet, you can infact use those in defending your territory. There also seams to be upgraded versions of every turret. THIS IS AMAZING! XD you can use parts of typeD 5 as turrets. There are so many turrets here I've never seen before! *heartattack* Edited February 21, 2012 by sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argroh Valdios Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 So basicly, it's Chromehounds, but without actuall factions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodlyPerfection Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 So basicly, it's Chromehounds, but without actuall factions. Except Armored Core needs a ton more piloting skill than Chromehounds does. Chromehounds is slow and very tactical so you will get the hang of the team centric features very quickly... but you've still got to learn to keep up with faster ACs and anticipate them fast enough to counter them properly. Being able to make tactical decisions under fast paced pressure is a bit different from the slower tactical side of things. Not saying that Chromehound players won't be good at Armored Core, just pointing out that there is another major skill that Chromehound players are going to have to learn. Hope you get the game and enjoy it. Best of luck to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy28 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) hm is there a way to try out operator mode in the demo? >_< im curious to know if itd be easy for me Unfortunately, as Ogawa has said, no. You need to be online in order to play that role which means you either buy the japanese version or wait till March. But as to the questions whether its easy, well, not really. Except Armored Core needs a ton more piloting skill than Chromehounds does. Chromehounds is slow and very tactical so you will get the hang of the team centric features very quickly... but you've still got to learn to keep up with faster ACs and anticipate them fast enough to counter them properly. Being able to make tactical decisions under fast paced pressure is a bit different from the slower tactical side of things. Not saying that Chromehound players won't be good at Armored Core, just pointing out that there is another major skill that Chromehound players are going to have to learn. Hope you get the game and enjoy it. Best of luck to you. ^And this is part of the reason why. ACV may be slower than FA but its still pretty fast, much faster than any RTS. Situations change real fast, and you need to be able to think and talk fast. The biggest problem I had was I kept forgetting which button was which beacon, so I kept spamming them all over the place. Probably annoyed my teammate a bit I didn't have too much issues doing it, but other people who tried said it was pretty difficult. My Operator guide talks about a bit. Don't know if i posted this yet, but here's some other trophies for ACVhttp://www.justpushstart.com/2012/02/amored-core-v-achievement-list/http://www.justpushs...-v-trophy-list/ Edited February 21, 2012 by farmboy28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I like being an operator myself and getting better at it each time. Also you need to check on your teammate's status often both live video you can pull up and through the general stats, I helps a lot if you see what's going on in real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmboy28 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I like being an operator myself and getting better at it each time. Also you need to check on your teammate's status often both live video you can pull up and through the general stats, I helps a lot if you see what's going on in real time.That's great! In general I haven't found a whole lot of people interested in playing the role a lot, so that's definitely good to hear.The big issue with that is what happens when you have you have five people in your team online at a certain time and no one wants the Operator position?I actually didn't know about the live video thing when I tried the demo online so I was handicapped. Still did okay I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 That's great! In general I haven't found a whole lot of people interested in playing the role a lot, so that's definitely good to hear.The big issue with that is what happens when you have you have five people in your team online at a certain time and no one wants the Operator position?I actually didn't know about the live video thing when I tried the demo online so I was handicapped. Still did okay I guess. I think it's only in the full game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodlyPerfection Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 I think it's only in the full game.Nah the live feed is in the demo... I used it a bunch during the two days we played. I love being an operator as well. I've been "training" byself by watching operator perspective videos and quickly reading stats and figuring out what weapons the guy that they are scanning has. It is pretty fun... lol. I feel like a damn nerd. Can't wait to get into this on 20th. Btw I'm looking for a couple of importers to try out the spreadsheet that I just finished up for a day or two to see if they can find any quick issues with it before I put it out for the public. Anyone want to give it a try? Just finished all the save/load/delete garage system this morning as well as error checking for if you try to equip an overed weapon with hanger weapons or if you try to put on shoulders with an arm part that can't use shoulders, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachis Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 ^And this is part of the reason why. ACV may be slower than FA but its still pretty fast, much faster than any RTS.Wow bro you couldn't be any more wrong about that one. Great RTS players have to play faster than great players of any other game genre. Fighters probably being number 2 on the list of genres that need you to be fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aokiryu89 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Wow bro you couldn't be any more wrong about that one. Great RTS players have to play faster than great players of any other game genre. Fighters probably being number 2 on the list of genres that need you to be fast. [/font][/color] Okay so we get the greatest RTS players to play Fighters and Shooters. And they will more than likely wipe the floor with the supposed great players of those genres!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodlyPerfection Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Wow bro you couldn't be any more wrong about that one. Great RTS players have to play faster than great players of any other game genre. Fighters probably being number 2 on the list of genres that need you to be fast. [/font][/color] Yes they are fast, but they don't require as much hand eye coordination as Fighters/Shooters etc. The beauty of shortcuts and macros... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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